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Re: 2009 Infiniti M50? [lexusguy] by lovemyclk
Apr 14, 2008 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 12:50 pm)

M50... sounds like the latest battle tank nomenclature
 
Would sure like to see Infiniti tone down the rear of the M to a more sleek design, it that's the right word. When I get behind one, the rear appears overly tall IMO. Have not driven the M, as I'm still attached to my 2003 e39SP, but friends who own them appear to like them.
 
My experience in a G35 Coupe was positive, so assuming the M is a similarly well-sorted out vehicle.
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Re: 2009 Infiniti M50? [lovemyclk] by james27
Apr 14, 2008 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: lovemyclk (Apr 14, 2008 2:13 pm)

That height really helps the trunk volume...especially if you select the full-sized spare option.
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Re: 2009 Infiniti M50? [lovemyclk] by lexusguy
Apr 14, 2008 (7:01 pm)
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Replying to: lovemyclk (Apr 14, 2008 2:13 pm)

Would sure like to see Infiniti tone down the rear of the M to a more sleek design, it that's the right word.
 
Have you seen what the restyled '08 M looks like from the rear? It's quite an improvement over the original '06 design.
 
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Re: Audi Navigation [lexusguy] by markcincinnati
Apr 15, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 12, 2008 10:09 pm)

I don't know enough about the PERFORMANCE of these cars. I assume they are both very high performers.
 
If you want a distinctive car, the Jag has to be the winner.
 
If you want what has, historically, been a very formidable driver's car, well the German probably wins.
 
I read a test report, long time ago, about the S6. It was very impressive. I have seen the Jag and it is drop dead gorgeous. That is probably not what you want to hear, however.
 
My choice if money in any way could be made less of an object, would be an Audi S8 -- but again, this may short change the Jaguar since I have not read anything of substance about it.
 
A phantom black S8 with the option boxes ticked off (what few there are) is the car that I would go for if I won the lottery.
 
Get the one that "speaks" to whatever criteria are most important to you, that's my best advice.
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Re: Audi Navigation [markcincinnati] by james27
Apr 15, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Apr 15, 2008 4:47 pm)

I just wish that more cars had the option to delete the sunroof. Depending on the car, it can take as much as 3" of headroom out of the car - that is vital when you are tall and long waisted. I also much prefer a mirror that has a double-jointed shaft so that you can not only move the mirror around the one swivel, you can move the whole thing both up and down...nothing more annoying than having your only driving position where your normal line-of-sight is looking though the stupid mirror - having to look around it so you can see what's over there is a safety hazard.
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Re: Audi Navigation [james27] by tayl0rd
Apr 16, 2008 (4:30 am)
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Replying to: james27 (Apr 15, 2008 5:52 pm)

... I also much prefer a mirror that has a double-jointed shaft...
 
I have never seen such a setup in any vehicle.
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mirror Re: Audi Navigation [tayl0rd] by rayainsw
Apr 16, 2008 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 16, 2008 4:30 am)

My last Grand Prix had one.
Worked very well.
My Corvette does not have one - and ( combined with the
low roof & steeply raked windshield ) it does block a fairly
large area...
 
- Ray
Appreciating the articulation...
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Re: Audi Navigation [james27] by 150mphclub
Apr 16, 2008 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: james27 (Apr 15, 2008 5:52 pm)

Your observation about the sunroof and mirror are RIGHT ON.
 
I challenge anyone to try to buy an Acura, Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Lexus, Mercedes or other non-american luxury car without a sunroof.
 
I ordered a Cadillac CTS with a "delete sunroof" on 2/29/08. It has not been built yet, but I am clinging to the hope that GM will build it.
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Re: Audi Navigation [150mphclub] by warthog
Apr 16, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: 150mphclub (Apr 16, 2008 5:29 am)

In the American South, a sunroof is a mixed blessing. Except during the evening, early am or late afternoon, the sun is way too bright and hot to leave the sunroof open. However, if the car is going to be parked in the sun for awhile, it's pretty nice to be able to set the sunroof to vent to keep down the pizza oven effect or just to open it briefly upon entering to let the hot air out.
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Re: Audi Navigation [tayl0rd] by james27
Apr 16, 2008 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 16, 2008 4:30 am)

Most Fords use that mirror attachment, some Chevy's...it may very well have been on cars you've driven (rentals, etc.), but unless you looked, you may never notice. That's the first thing I do is instead of having the shaft pointing down to lower the mirror, I pivot it up to get it as far out of the way as I can.
 
A few cars ago, I special ordered an Audi A6 without a sunroof...took months. It had 2.85" more headroom than an identical one with a sunroof. When it became time to replace that car, I checked with the dealer who looked and found 2 cars in the whole country without a sunroof. The way they have the options packages for many cars, some of the desireable options MUST include the sunroof (at the time, you could not get the HID lights except with a package with the sunroof).
 
One option I'd like to see more of is a solar panel powered ventillation system...the brighter the sun, the faster it moves the hot air out of the car. Hassle is, if it is there, the few that do offer it, put the solar cells in the sunroof, which usurps all that headroom!

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