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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#9598 of 10348 Re: 2009 Infiniti M50? [rayainsw]
Apr 11, 2008 (5:14 pm)
The question of which car would be the next in Infiniti's lineup to utilize their new 7 speed was the first that entered my mind when I saw the introduction of the new FX50. My 2006 M45 Sport lease expires in June and I've been waffling in my decision on a follow up car. I took the opportunity earlier this week to speak to the owner of my local Infiniti dealership about this topic and he offered his opinion as to what he thinks will happen.
Infiniti has not yet announced to their dealers what will be happening with the 2009 M's. The intriguing thing, however, is that it appears that the 2009 M's will not be hitting dealer lots until sometime this fall. This is of interest because for the past two years the new M's were arriving to dealers in a June time frame. The owner feels that the 2-4 month delay would seem to bode well for a fairly significant change to the M even though Infiniti is still in the refresh part of the product cycle. Infiniti registered the M50 label some time ago so the 5 liter engine has certainly been in their plans for this car. Mating the new 7 speed to this engine would make sense since it is the combination that is going into the FX50. I doubt that there will be an M50 without the 7 speed but it is certainly possible that a change to the 7 speed may happen even if Infiniti chooses to leave the 4.5 liter in for now.
Also, it appears that there is a stronger possibility that the new Q that has been in development for the past 4 years may never make production. Infiniti will be attempting to accelerate their push to become a global brand and it appears that the only market for a car larger than the M would be in the United States. The local dealer has indicated that he and many other Infiniti dealers would prefer not to see a low volume vehicle such as the Q return to the lineup. So, if the dealers for the major market of the Q aren't excited about the prospects of a new Q then it's entirely possible that the M will be slotted as the "flagship" car for the Infiniti brand. If this proves to be true then I would imagine that any significant improvements in the Infiniti brand will find their way into the M's very quickly.
I would easily be content buying or re-leasing my current M as it has proven to be a wonderful car. I really haven't found noise or gas mileage to be a big problem for me. But, the 7 speed certainly would enhance the M45 and I could see it being a tremendous improvement for the M35 or M37. Hopefully this is the direction Infiniti is heading with this product.
#9599 of 10348 Re: Audi Navigation [sryn]
Apr 12, 2008 (3:33 am)
From what I've read, Cadillac's latest navigation system & screen display seem to be among, if not THE, industry's best. High marks have also been given to the nav systems offered by Infiniti and Acura.
I recently test drove the new CTS. I really disliked the Nav system. I found it very clunky to use. I have an Acura RL and haven't found a Nav system that compared, in my opinion.
#9600 of 10348 Re: Audi Navigation [sryn]
Apr 12, 2008 (5:46 pm)
My Audi nav is just o k---about three years old---I would think any of the Japanese would be better, but know first hand Lexus is good...Tony
#9601 of 10348 Re: Audi Navigation [sryn]
Apr 12, 2008 (6:28 pm)
The Cadillac system is on par with the Audi system which is good -- the Japanese systems, in some ways are superior.
The Acura system is, according to most sources the best. Audis system even with voice command gets perhaps a B+.
I am NOT unhappy with mine, but whenever I test one of the Infiniti or Acura products these days, I wonder why the Germans can't do better?
Land Rover, too, is quite good.
#9602 of 10348 Re: Audi Navigation [markcincinnati]
Apr 12, 2008 (10:09 pm)
Hey Mark, what do you think, S6 or Jag XF-R? I'm still torn.
#9603 of 10348 Re: Audi Navigation [markcincinnati]
Apr 13, 2008 (1:32 am)
The Cadilac system is about the same as my 05 A6 4.2. The Nav in my wife's Lexus is superior.
#9604 of 10348 Re: 2009 Infiniti M50? [lexusguy]
Apr 14, 2008 (2:13 pm)
M50... sounds like the latest battle tank nomenclature
Would sure like to see Infiniti tone down the rear of the M to a more sleek design, it that's the right word. When I get behind one, the rear appears overly tall IMO. Have not driven the M, as I'm still attached to my 2003 e39SP, but friends who own them appear to like them.
My experience in a G35 Coupe was positive, so assuming the M is a similarly well-sorted out vehicle.
#9605 of 10348 Re: 2009 Infiniti M50? [lovemyclk]
Apr 14, 2008 (4:15 pm)
That height really helps the trunk volume...especially if you select the full-sized spare option.
#9606 of 10348 Re: 2009 Infiniti M50? [lovemyclk]
Apr 14, 2008 (7:01 pm)
Would sure like to see Infiniti tone down the rear of the M to a more sleek design, it that's the right word.
Have you seen what the restyled '08 M looks like from the rear? It's quite an improvement over the original '06 design.
#9607 of 10348 Re: Audi Navigation [lexusguy]
Apr 15, 2008 (4:47 pm)
I don't know enough about the PERFORMANCE of these cars. I assume they are both very high performers.
If you want a distinctive car, the Jag has to be the winner.
If you want what has, historically, been a very formidable driver's car, well the German probably wins.
I read a test report, long time ago, about the S6. It was very impressive. I have seen the Jag and it is drop dead gorgeous. That is probably not what you want to hear, however.
My choice if money in any way could be made less of an object, would be an Audi S8 -- but again, this may short change the Jaguar since I have not read anything of substance about it.
A phantom black S8 with the option boxes ticked off (what few there are) is the car that I would go for if I won the lottery.
Get the one that "speaks" to whatever criteria are most important to you, that's my best advice.