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#9565 of 10007 Re: Car choice update [circlew] by og_oggilby Dec 24, 2007 (5:27 am)
Replying to: circlew (Dec 23, 2007 12:43 pm) Thanks OW, and happy holidays to you and yours! I will keep the forum updated. This is the first time I have ordered a car - the waiting period (6-8 weeks) is a little bit like waiting for Christmas when I was a kid
#9567 of 10007 Re: Car choice update [og_oggilby] by carnaught Dec 24, 2007 (7:20 am)
Replying to: og_oggilby (Dec 23, 2007 9:54 am) Congrats on the car. You'll love it. My ordered car was in my grips within 6-7 weeks and was well worth waiting for.   Best wishes, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all !!
#9568 of 10007 "improved" RL for 2009 by rayainsw Feb 06, 2008 (12:32 pm)
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=124676   "What this means to you: It still can't run with the big dogs, but..."   Will it matter? Replies to this message: lexusguy (Feb 06, 2008 12:55 pm) og_oggilby (Feb 09, 2008 8:18 am) lexusguy (Feb 09, 2008 2:41 pm) and 4 more...
#9569 of 10007 Re: "improved" RL for 2009 [rayainsw] by lexusguy Feb 06, 2008 (12:55 pm)
Replying to: rayainsw (Feb 06, 2008 12:32 pm) "What this means to you: It still can't run with the big dogs, but..."    Will it matter?   I would say no. I think they've made it look worse and even more Accord like than before. That MDX grill does not help the front end. Unfortunately that's also probably what the next TL will look like from the front. This will help the RL better compete with the other big sixes in the class like the GS350 and the 535i, but it still is no match for the V8s. I also don't see fuel economy improving without an extra cog. Replies to this message: og_oggilby (Feb 09, 2008 8:18 am) lexusguy (Feb 09, 2008 2:41 pm) tayl0rd (Feb 11, 2008 5:03 am) houdini1 (Feb 11, 2008 7:12 am) and 2 more...
#9570 of 10007 Re: "improved" RL for 2009 [lexusguy] by og_oggilby Feb 09, 2008 (8:18 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 06, 2008 12:55 pm) I wish the RL's were more competitive with BMW, Lexus, Infiniti, and Audi. It is too bad they just keep turning out models that aren't that different from the Accord. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Feb 09, 2008 2:41 pm) tayl0rd (Feb 11, 2008 5:03 am) houdini1 (Feb 11, 2008 7:12 am) lexusguy (Feb 11, 2008 8:51 am) and 1 more...
#9571 of 10007 Re: "improved" RL for 2009 [og_oggilby] by lexusguy Feb 09, 2008 (2:41 pm)
Replying to: og_oggilby (Feb 09, 2008 8:18 am) I wish the RL's were more competitive with BMW, Lexus, Infiniti, and Audi. It is too bad they just keep turning out models that aren't that different from the Accord.   There's only so much you can do with a shared platform. The BMW, Lexus, Infiniti, and Audi are all riding on bespoke gear. Each offers several engine and drivetrain choices as well. Acura's "one size fits all" approach worked more for them when their cars were several thousand less than the competition. Now that they are approaching parity though, customers want more choice and Acura can't deliver. Replies to this message: tayl0rd (Feb 11, 2008 5:03 am) houdini1 (Feb 11, 2008 7:12 am) lexusguy (Feb 11, 2008 8:51 am)
#9572 of 10007 Re: "improved" RL for 2009 [lexusguy] by tayl0rd Feb 11, 2008 (5:03 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 09, 2008 2:41 pm) ...customers want more choice and Acura can't deliver.   They can deliver. They just refuse to do so. That has always been the Honda way. Try custom ordering one. The salesman will tapdance for an hour trying to "locate" one that meets your criteria (and actually send you on your way if he can't) instead of just ordering the dang thing.
#9573 of 10007 Re: "improved" RL for 2009 [lexusguy] by houdini1 Feb 11, 2008 (7:12 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 09, 2008 2:41 pm) LG, didn't the old Legend and maybe the original RL have its own chassis and then the Accord was adapted to it later? I have never been quite sure about this. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Feb 11, 2008 8:51 am)
#9574 of 10007 Re: "improved" RL for 2009 [houdini1] by lexusguy Feb 11, 2008 (8:51 am)
Replying to: houdini1 (Feb 11, 2008 7:12 am) LG, didn't the old Legend and maybe the original RL have its own chassis and then the Accord was adapted to it later? I have never been quite sure about this.   Good question. The original Legend wasn't related to the Accord, and I'm not entirely sure exactly how closely they relate currently. The Vigor/TL though was based directly on the Accord from day one, which is why new TLs always come a year after new Accords.

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