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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: Best LPS to buy and hold on to? [markcincinnati] by bruceomega
Oct 23, 2007 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Oct 22, 2007 5:33 pm)

FWIW
 
Bang for the buck -- ???? Well, again the new CTS 3.6DI AWD with the FE2 suspension and the lux package is "almost a BMW 5 series" -- at least if you evaluate cars largely by their wheelbase and width.
 
In the Nov 07 issue of Sports Car International, they have a review of the '08 CTS, and an inset write up on the 535i. They prefrerred the engine and transmission of the 535i. Surprisingly, to me, they criticized the ride and handling of the 535i, while complementing the CTS, but I am not familiar with this magazine or it's credibility.
 
... it is hard to resist the 535x. But for performance, luxury and fun an A6 4.2 SLine if one can be found, would be a great ride ...
 
I would suggest adding the M45x to this mix.
 
Thanks
Bruce
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15 min. Re: A6 4.2 [markcincinnati] by rayainsw
Oct 23, 2007 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Oct 23, 2007 7:06 am)

"I have seen this type of "get 'em while you can" offer from Audi about ONE TIME annually and I cannot always put my finger on the rhyme or reason for the "deals" such as they are.
  
They do last, however, about 15 minutes."
 
I see.
Thanks for 'splainin' that to me.
- Ray
Feelin' pretty dumb....
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Re: Best LPS to buy and hold on to? [og_oggilby] by tayl0rd
Oct 23, 2007 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: og_oggilby (Oct 23, 2007 5:50 am)

... Supposedly powertrain reliability in Cadillac's is not so great. ...
 
Where on Earth did you hear that? GM cars have their problems, but powertrain/drivetrain is not normally one of them.
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Re: Best LPS to buy and hold on to? [tayl0rd] by og_oggilby
Oct 24, 2007 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Oct 23, 2007 10:46 am)

Where on Earth did you hear that? GM cars have their problems, but powertrain/drivetrain is not normally one of them.
 
ConsumerReports.org
 
Specifically the drive system is rated below average or worse in the CTS (for the last 5 years) and the STS (only lists 2006). I have no idea how accurate the CR ratings are, which is the reason I wrote "Supposedly".
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Re: Best LPS to buy and hold on to? [og_oggilby] by 150mphclub
Oct 24, 2007 (1:08 pm)
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Replying to: og_oggilby (Oct 24, 2007 7:14 am)

You need to learn how to read Consumer Reports. They specifically rated the CTS engines and transmissions above average in reliability.
 
The rating you are talking about is not the powertrain/drivetrain, but the "drive system", which Consumer Reports describes as follows:
 
Drive system: Driveshaft or axle, CV joint, wheel bearing(s), differential, transfer case, 4WD/AWD components, driveline vibration, traction control, stability control, electrical failure.
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As I Recall,. . . by cdnpinhead
Oct 24, 2007 (2:53 pm)
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there were a number of cases of differential noise reported on the earlier CTS's. That might help explain the CR thing, though often CR stuff can't be explained.
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Re: As I Recall,. . . [cdnpinhead] by shipo
Oct 24, 2007 (4:20 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Oct 24, 2007 2:53 pm)

I have also read reports of suspensions and/or suspension frame members failing.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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October Sales Figures by drtravel
Nov 02, 2007 (5:21 am)
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BMW 5-series 4,943
M-B E-class 4,176
Infiniti M 1,535
Lexus GS 1,507
Audi A6 937
Acura RL 365
 
Year to date figures:
 
BMW 5-series 42,837
M-B E-class 38,360
Lexus GS 18,597
Infiniti M 17,948
Audi A6 9,699
Acura RL 5,284
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Re: October Sales Figures [drtravel] by houdini1
Nov 04, 2007 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 02, 2007 5:21 am)

Dr, what is your source for those figures? Thanks.
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Re: October Sales Figures [houdini1] by drtravel
Nov 05, 2007 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 04, 2007 1:55 pm)

The manufacturers announce their sales through a variety of sources. I usually just go to theautochannel.com because they list announcements from all auto makers.

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