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#9522 of 10338 Re: A6 4.2 Re: Best LPS to buy and hold on to? [rayainsw] by markcincinnati

Oct 23, 2007 (8:06 am)

Replying to: rayainsw (Oct 23, 2007 5:48 am)
Much is written about Audi's apparent disinterest in agressively pricing their cars (for lease or purchase) in the US. While BMW's can be leased for a fraction of the cost of many of this class.
 
Once, maybe twice, per year, there is a "point of inflection" so to speak, where an Audi actually can be acquired without breaking the bank.
 
With the A6 4.2, my comment was almost literally: the duration of that window of opportunity is 15 minutes.
 
I shopped for my 2005 A6 for months and it was often $200 more than an Infiniti or a BMW on a 36 month closed end lease. Indeed, the Audi had to be over optioned to make it compare with the M35X, which made the price gap even larger.
 
Yet, lo and behold, here comes a deal -- a $53,286 MSRP Audi for $640 per month, 15K miles and no money down.
 
I have seen this type of "get 'em while you can" offer from Audi about ONE TIME annually and I cannot always put my finger on the rhyme or reason for the "deals" such as they are.
 
They do last, however, about 15 minutes.
 
Be there or be square.

#9523 of 10338 Re: Best LPS to buy and hold on to? [markcincinnati] by bruceomega

Oct 23, 2007 (8:07 am)

Replying to: markcincinnati (Oct 22, 2007 6:33 pm)
FWIW
 
Bang for the buck -- ???? Well, again the new CTS 3.6DI AWD with the FE2 suspension and the lux package is "almost a BMW 5 series" -- at least if you evaluate cars largely by their wheelbase and width.
 
In the Nov 07 issue of Sports Car International, they have a review of the '08 CTS, and an inset write up on the 535i. They prefrerred the engine and transmission of the 535i. Surprisingly, to me, they criticized the ride and handling of the 535i, while complementing the CTS, but I am not familiar with this magazine or it's credibility.
 
... it is hard to resist the 535x. But for performance, luxury and fun an A6 4.2 SLine if one can be found, would be a great ride ...
 
I would suggest adding the M45x to this mix.
 
Thanks
Bruce

#9524 of 10338 15 min. Re: A6 4.2 [markcincinnati] by rayainsw

Oct 23, 2007 (8:36 am)

Replying to: markcincinnati (Oct 23, 2007 8:06 am)
"I have seen this type of "get 'em while you can" offer from Audi about ONE TIME annually and I cannot always put my finger on the rhyme or reason for the "deals" such as they are.
  
They do last, however, about 15 minutes."
 
I see.
Thanks for 'splainin' that to me.
- Ray
Feelin' pretty dumb....

#9525 of 10338 Re: Best LPS to buy and hold on to? [og_oggilby] by tayl0rd

Oct 23, 2007 (11:46 am)

Replying to: og_oggilby (Oct 23, 2007 6:50 am)
... Supposedly powertrain reliability in Cadillac's is not so great. ...
 
Where on Earth did you hear that? GM cars have their problems, but powertrain/drivetrain is not normally one of them.

#9526 of 10338 Re: Best LPS to buy and hold on to? [tayl0rd] by og_oggilby

Oct 24, 2007 (8:14 am)

Replying to: tayl0rd (Oct 23, 2007 11:46 am)
Where on Earth did you hear that? GM cars have their problems, but powertrain/drivetrain is not normally one of them.
 
ConsumerReports.org
 
Specifically the drive system is rated below average or worse in the CTS (for the last 5 years) and the STS (only lists 2006). I have no idea how accurate the CR ratings are, which is the reason I wrote "Supposedly".

#9527 of 10338 Re: Best LPS to buy and hold on to? [og_oggilby] by 150mphclub

Oct 24, 2007 (2:08 pm)

Replying to: og_oggilby (Oct 24, 2007 8:14 am)
You need to learn how to read Consumer Reports. They specifically rated the CTS engines and transmissions above average in reliability.
 
The rating you are talking about is not the powertrain/drivetrain, but the "drive system", which Consumer Reports describes as follows:
 
Drive system: Driveshaft or axle, CV joint, wheel bearing(s), differential, transfer case, 4WD/AWD components, driveline vibration, traction control, stability control, electrical failure.

#9528 of 10338 As I Recall,. . . by cdnpinhead

Oct 24, 2007 (3:53 pm)

there were a number of cases of differential noise reported on the earlier CTS's. That might help explain the CR thing, though often CR stuff can't be explained.

#9529 of 10338 Re: As I Recall,. . . [cdnpinhead] by shipo

Oct 24, 2007 (5:20 pm)

Replying to: cdnpinhead (Oct 24, 2007 3:53 pm)
I have also read reports of suspensions and/or suspension frame members failing.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

#9530 of 10338 October Sales Figures by drtravel

Nov 02, 2007 (6:21 am)

BMW 5-series 4,943
M-B E-class 4,176
Infiniti M 1,535
Lexus GS 1,507
Audi A6 937
Acura RL 365
 
Year to date figures:
 
BMW 5-series 42,837
M-B E-class 38,360
Lexus GS 18,597
Infiniti M 17,948
Audi A6 9,699
Acura RL 5,284

#9531 of 10338 Re: October Sales Figures [drtravel] by houdini1

Nov 04, 2007 (2:55 pm)

Replying to: drtravel (Nov 02, 2007 6:21 am)
Dr, what is your source for those figures? Thanks.

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