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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 22, 2007 3:31 am) The cheaper way is to buy and sell in 3-4 years but considering the resales value, it's more or less risky depending on, well, the dependability and desirability at the time of resale. Look at what is selling now in your target vehicle class. IMHO, the choices at the top of this category are the Merc E, BMW 5, and the M's from Infinity. These should return at the upper end of value after you decide to sell because of the higher demand and dependability. This could change but it should be a good guide unless you wait 17 years to resell! Regards, OW
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 22, 2007 3:31 am) I wouldn't bet against Acura reliability, for electronics or anything else. I have a 16 year old Legend which in its entire lifetime the check engine light came on once...only once....(and promptly reset itself after I restarted the car). The car is still a joy to drive. I also can't think of a single thing it does better than any other car in the segment. It is just very good at everything it does, making it a great car to drive and own.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 22, 2007 3:31 am) As far as the buying experience being so horrible, it really depends on the dealer/salesperson. I just don't enjoy the experience like I used to. Researching, test driving, and then trying to get the best price is very time consuming and can be quite frustrating. I have waited 3+ years to buy a new LPS and and am not all that thrilled with the choices. I did find the Lexus GS350 to be disappointing and have read the CR review, which is grim considering the Lexus reputation. You might be right about Hell freezing over. The GS350 was going to be my fall back car if I couldn't find something more fun to drive. I don't know how soon Lexus can fix the problems the GS has. It is a shame that my 2002 GS got rear ended a few years ago (17k damage and it was never the same) or I would still be driving it and not going through this right now.
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Replying to: circlew (Oct 22, 2007 6:34 am) I am not big on leasing since I can't write it off at all. I know that a car isn't a very good investment. At this point the idea of buying a nice/fun car, paying it off, and not having car payments for awhile is very appealing to me. If I need to sell it in 3-4 years then I am back where I started. The problem is that there is no perfect car, most people are partial to the brand they are driving, and everyone has different taste in vehicles, which can make it difficult to find useful reviews. The luck of the draw enters into it also. It is possible to get a car that will run forever or a lemon no matter what car you choose. Some brands and models improve the odds of getting a "good" one more than others... |
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Replying to: og_oggilby (Oct 22, 2007 8:23 am) The RL is decent enough but not all that fun to drive. The Infinitis gas mileage is not great or even good through the entire lineup. I have dropped Lexus, I was checking out the ES, and the reliability is very disappointing and they haven’t found fixes for the various problems despite their attempts. After all of this, the E Class 320 Blue Tec. Very good gas mileage (diesel), very good power for passing, not too noisy, nice riding, maybe even a little sporty very comfortable front and rear seats. Reliability seems to be getting better. Pricey though. I am reading this forum to find a suitable CPO, and then try to convince my wife that it would be a good idea. I too, am looking for a vehicle that would be good for the long run, 8 to 10 years of ownership.
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Replying to: justbass (Oct 22, 2007 9:04 am) ...my wife and I live in Taxachusetts I am getting the feeling that cars are being built as disposables these days. I don't know what happened to Lexus's reliability other than they realized they make a lot more money servicing them than selling them. |
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Replying to: og_oggilby (Oct 22, 2007 9:49 am) Also the GS hybrid was rated as the most reliable car of all in this group! Go figure! The RL was also rated very high in reliability. Dealerships can vary widely by city but my experience has been that Lexus is tops with Acura not far behind. Infinity I would have to rate poor. All new cars are a bad investment. A good late model CPO from Lexus would be better. Maybe the LS? You save a ton on depreciation, get virtually a new car warranty and they still treat you like a king.
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Replying to: og_oggilby (Oct 22, 2007 9:49 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 22, 2007 1:49 pm) Out of curiosity, do you have any personal experience with Infiniti (not Infinity)?
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Replying to: carnaught (Oct 22, 2007 3:32 pm) As far as dealers, yes, I have visited the Infiniti store here a few times while shopping and I always seem to get someone who knows very little about the cars, etc. or someone who just insists that you buy the car NOW and puts on the hard sell. Remember that this is just my experience and things like this are very subjective. |
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