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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: September Sales Figures [klpeel] by drtravel
Oct 03, 2007 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: klpeel (Oct 03, 2007 2:09 pm)

Yes, I think that the delay in the updated '08 M may be part of the answer. I'm one of those waiting for the update to be available before buying, as I'll be looking at the new M45x.
 
Didn't think about that cause but makes sense. I bought my M back in April, 2005 and took it in for service last week and while I was waiting walked around the lot and didn't see any of the 2008 M's yet. I was curious to see if the new M and new G had almost identical fronts - might be even harder to tell them apart. I believe Infiniti will be the first LPS to have all wheel drive on their V-8.
 
The current issue of Consumer Reports again picked the M as the best LPS - not that this will have any influence on sales.
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Re: September Sales Figures [drtravel] by lynnminny
Oct 04, 2007 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: drtravel (Oct 03, 2007 5:53 pm)

According to Infiniti-- the 2008 M is due for release on Nov. 5. Also-- 2008 Lexus GS should be out the end of this month.
 
I own an Acura RL and have already noticed that the Accord looks even more like the Acura now. It is very disappointing and I will be selling my Acura. I am also waiting for the 2008 M45x to come out.
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Re: September Sales Figures [drtravel] by lexusguy
Oct 04, 2007 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: drtravel (Oct 03, 2007 5:53 pm)

I believe Infiniti will be the first LPS to have all wheel drive on their V-8.
 
Not quite. The '00 Audi A6 4.2 came only with Quattro all wheel drive, and Mercedes also offered the E430 4Matic that same year. The STS also offered AWD with the V8 when it launched, and the Volvo S80 V8 AWD came out last year. Infiniti has beaten Lexus and BMW, and of course Acura who has no V8 at all, but they are far from the first.
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Re: September Sales Figures [lexusguy] by drtravel
Oct 04, 2007 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 09, 2006 1:25 pm)

Oops... I meant currently available.
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Re: September Sales Figures [drtravel] by james27
Oct 04, 2007 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Oct 04, 2007 4:21 pm)

Many of those are still available...
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Re: September Sales Figures [drtravel] by kgary
Oct 05, 2007 (2:47 am)
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Replying to: drtravel (Oct 04, 2007 4:21 pm)

The Audi, Lexus, Mercedes are all still available.
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Re: September Sales Figures [lexusguy] by houdini1
Oct 12, 2007 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 03, 2007 1:36 pm)

I am surprised to see that the GS has outsold the M this year. The GS must have something going for it.
 
Keep in mind that there just may be people waiting on the 08 GS as well!
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will larger alloys fit car? by pbooks1
Oct 12, 2007 (10:02 am)
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Hi, please can anyone advise me if it would be OK to fit new alloy wheels size 8 1/4 Jx17 H2 ET 34(235/45 ZR17 tyres) on my E class Mercedes, 1997 (W210), which currently has 15 inch alloys (205/60 15 tyres).
  
  
The alloys I wish to fit to my car are 8 1/4 Jx17 H2 ET 34, are fitted with Dunlop 9000 tyres 235/45 ZR 17.
Please could you tell me if this is OK to put on my 1997 E230 Mercedes saloon(210).
The handbook says that suitable wheel & Tyres "light alloy wheel" is these cobinations 235/45 R17 93w tyre & the alloy 8 Jx 17 H2 ET37.
  
Compared to the alloys I wish to fit, would the above handbook stated ones be OK on my car?? If so what differences in cars drive should be expected?
  
Thank you very much
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Re: September Sales Figures [houdini1] by lexusguy
Oct 12, 2007 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 12, 2007 5:51 am)

The GS has the Lexus badge, and the Lexus dealer network, so the odds are already pretty well stacked in its favor. As for the car itself, the M has trounced the GS in every magazine test and in CR as well. If Infiniti had the same number of dealers as Lexus and the same badge prestige, I would bet that the GS would lose badly in sales as well. In any case, sales is of course no measure of quality.
 
Except for the GS460, everything else about the '08 GS is a carryover, so I don't see why people would be holding out for the new one, other than the few hundred that buy the V8. I guess we'll have to wait and see if the updated M is enough to push it over the top.
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Re: will larger alloys fit car? [pbooks1] by james27
Oct 12, 2007 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: pbooks1 (Oct 12, 2007 10:02 am)

Sounds like you're not in the USA, but that doesn't matter...what will fit is based on the car, not where you are. 17" wheels can fit, but not sure about those. In running the numbers, it looks like the 15" vs 17" in the size you indicate has the 17" version 13% smaller in rotating diameter, so that would make a huge difference in the gearing and speedometer/odometer...I don't think you'd be happy.
 
When you go to a bigger wheel/tire, the ride generally gets worse but the handling can improve.
 
A good place to investigate tire/wheel combinations, even if you can't buy them there, is www.tirerack.com. What you are interested in is +2 sizing, if you have 15" on there now.

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