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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 02, 2007 10:14 am) thanks
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Replying to: mojo1078 (Sep 08, 2007 12:06 pm) If a cushy FWD ride is what you're looking for, then the ES is possibly the perfect ride (although I would look at the Acura TL as well). Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: hihomike (Sep 03, 2007 4:31 am) thanks
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Replying to: mojo1078 (Sep 08, 2007 12:21 pm) |
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Replying to: mojo1078 (Sep 08, 2007 12:12 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 05, 2007 10:51 am) I agree, the RL's problem is the RL, not the engine. In a field of fantastic cars, it's merely an also ran. Even the S80 is better. I also agree with what others have said, the BMW 3.0TT is a far different beast than Acura's 3.5. The BMW engine produces in reality around 330hp, while the RL's 3.5 after the new SAE spec is down to 290hp. More importantly though, the 3.0TT produces V8 levels of torque barely above idle, while the RL's engine has to rev to 5000rpm in order to produce just 256ft.lbs. That simply isn't enough for a 4020lb. car, which is why the RL is so slow. A V8 would make it faster, but that would also make it even more nose heavy. The car in its current iteration is simply unfixable. They've got to start over from scratch.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 09, 2007 4:38 pm) Regards, OW
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 09, 2007 2:17 pm) The 3.2 A6 is nice, but it's a bit underpowered  255hp. It's a totally different driving experience between the V6 and the V8 A6. When comparing 60k cars, the 4.2 A6 is probably the best bang for the buck out there. You can easily spend 5-7k more more on a comparably equipped AWD BMW or MB. But everybody seems to want lease deals, and the A6 isn't the car to buy beacuse of a low lease payment. From the sales figures I see, Audi really doesn't seem to worry about how many A6's they're selling in the US market. It's not the best "deal" out there, but certainly near the top of best cars in that category. |
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 10, 2007 9:16 am) The Legend never really went away. When the Legend became the RL in '96, it was still the Honda Legend in Japan. The problem was what they did to the car. The original Legend was low and sleek, and it had great steering for a FWD car. Sales were great. In '96, they decided to go after the LS400, by turning the RL into a boring luxo-cruiser with loads of body roll, ultra-light, ultra-numb steering, and styling that copied the LS. Unfortunately the LS was already a copy of the S-class, so the RL was a slow, boring, weak V6 powered FWD copy of a copy. Sales absolutely tanked, and never recovered. It took Acura nine years to come up with a replacement for their colossal failure, and that replacement turned out to be a colossal failure. Acura just doesn't seem to understand the mid-lux category.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 10, 2007 1:13 pm) Regards, OW |
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