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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: But I want it all! [topspin628] by alexanderk
Sep 08, 2007 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Sep 08, 2007 4:04 am)

I got this Ipod interface from Apple store. It works through the radio and car charger. Again it is not perfect but works.
If you like MB CLK convertible, back in June, 550 with a MRSP in low $70 were leased for under 900 a month.
Another nice car was just leased by my brother. It is Lexus GS350. Car has it all and not expensive. Sure it would be a little step down from big luxury sedans but again it is hard to tell where is that line of separation. I probably would consider this GS back when I was on the market if I would know better. Since you mentioned a BMW 535, I thought of that alternative. It would be no sport package that actually looks so M5. HP will be similar and quality of interior is unbelievably better.
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Re: choosing the right luxury car [shipo] by mojo1078
Sep 08, 2007 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Sep 01, 2007 4:39 pm)

Thanks so much for your imput on the CTS. You're absolutely correct, I test drove it and was not impress at all. I have decided not to get the BMW, its an awsome car however its not in my price range. I visited a lexus dealer and was very impress with ES350 2007. Any advice?
 
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Re: choosing the right luxury car [lexusguy] by mojo1078
Sep 08, 2007 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 02, 2007 10:14 am)

Thanks for your advice. Due to alot of negative reviews on the AUDI, I have decided not to consider it, instead I am looking at the lexus ES350 2007.
 
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Re: choosing the right luxury car [mojo1078] by shipo
Sep 08, 2007 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: mojo1078 (Sep 08, 2007 12:06 pm)

An ES350... Hmmmm. The main difference between the CTS, the three and five series BMWs and other competitors like the C-Class, the Infiniti G and Lexus IS is that the Lexus ES is Front Wheel Drive and quite "unsporty" by comparison.
 
If a cushy FWD ride is what you're looking for, then the ES is possibly the perfect ride (although I would look at the Acura TL as well).
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: choosing the right luxury car [hihomike] by mojo1078
Sep 08, 2007 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: hihomike (Sep 03, 2007 4:31 am)

I agree, if you're looking for luxury, style and a great resale value the bimmer 5 series is it. My only problem is the price, its well over my range. I am considering the Lexus ES350 2007. I was very impress with this car and the price is not all bad. Any advice?
 
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Re: choosing the right luxury car [mojo1078] by kgary
Sep 09, 2007 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: mojo1078 (Sep 08, 2007 12:21 pm)

If you like the ES, take a look at the loaded Camry and Avalon and save a couple of bucks.
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Re: choosing the right luxury car [mojo1078] by markcincinnati
Sep 09, 2007 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: mojo1078 (Sep 08, 2007 12:12 pm)

At the risk of being piled up on, I'll ask, WHAT negative reviews?
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Re: what to do [markcincinnati] by lexusguy
Sep 09, 2007 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 05, 2007 10:51 am)

I wouldn't think the lack of a V8 is the reason for the Acura's lackluster sales. If "magically" an Acura RL V8 would be brought out otherwise identical to the current 6 cylinder version, I seriously doubt there would be anything more than a temporary bump in sales.
 
I agree, the RL's problem is the RL, not the engine. In a field of fantastic cars, it's merely an also ran. Even the S80 is better. I also agree with what others have said, the BMW 3.0TT is a far different beast than Acura's 3.5. The BMW engine produces in reality around 330hp, while the RL's 3.5 after the new SAE spec is down to 290hp. More importantly though, the 3.0TT produces V8 levels of torque barely above idle, while the RL's engine has to rev to 5000rpm in order to produce just 256ft.lbs. That simply isn't enough for a 4020lb. car, which is why the RL is so slow. A V8 would make it faster, but that would also make it even more nose heavy. The car in its current iteration is simply unfixable. They've got to start over from scratch.
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Re: what to do [lexusguy] by circlew
Sep 10, 2007 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 09, 2007 4:38 pm)

I agree...the RL reminds me of an Asian oldsmobile. Perhaps they should bring back the Legend.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: choosing the right luxury car [markcincinnati] by rjlaero
Sep 10, 2007 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 09, 2007 2:17 pm)

I have a 2006 A6 4.2, and it's an awesome car. Audi's V8 is such a sweet engine. It's got amazing purr to it that makes me actually want to turn the radio off and hear the engine as I run thru the gears. I've been in a lot of high end BMW's and 400 plus HP AMG Mercedes', and none of them are as satisfying as sitting behind the wheel of a V8 Audi. At least not for me. There's more to it than whose car is fastest from 0-60.
 
The 3.2 A6 is nice, but it's a bit underpowered 255hp. It's a totally different driving experience between the V6 and the V8 A6.
 
When comparing 60k cars, the 4.2 A6 is probably the best bang for the buck out there. You can easily spend 5-7k more more on a comparably equipped AWD BMW or MB.
 
But everybody seems to want lease deals, and the A6 isn't the car to buy beacuse of a low lease payment. From the sales figures I see, Audi really doesn't seem to worry about how many A6's they're selling in the US market. It's not the best "deal" out there, but certainly near the top of best cars in that category.

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