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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 03, 2007 7:34 am) Think about how fast the Cayman would be if it had top level 911 power and a limited slip diff. It has the ultimate performance layout - mid-engine, RWD.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 03, 2007 12:37 pm) The 911 Turbo Coupe is AWD. Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 03, 2007 1:24 pm) |
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5-Series 5,173 E-Class 3,718 GS 2,300 M35/45 1,658 A6 807 RL 522 CTS ???
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Replying to: drtravel (Sep 04, 2007 12:16 pm) I just came from 20 minutes (not driving, just sitting) in a $48K CTS DI, and -- well, hell, it seems to come "this close" to being a member of the LPS class. Alas, the CTS is (not yet) NOT a member of the club. The interior, for what its worth, is almost in the Audi class (which, for my money, is the best of the bunch.)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 04, 2007 3:40 pm) Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: shipo (Sep 04, 2007 4:25 pm) Any advice is welcome. Thanks
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Replying to: topspin628 (Sep 04, 2007 5:27 pm) FWIW, configured apples to apples with the options I would order, there is an $8,800 difference in price. Hmmm, better fuel economy, almost identical acceleration (better at altitude and on hot humid days), less weight to throw around and significant savings. What's not to like? Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: shipo (Sep 04, 2007 4:25 pm) I was questioning the sales rep about how one would go about integrating a phone into the system that allowed you to check your voice mail. On*Star, lacking a keypad (and costing an arm and half a leg to use for calling), does not. The fact that the STS has bluetooth and the CTS does not (when a Mazda does) is difficult for me to square in this class. Audi (and BMW) make the integration of the phone, CD, nav, radio and voice command so easy -- and we all know that the Japanese cars can be even better at this. Many things to like about the new CTS (for the money especially), but, for my wife and me this bluetooth (or lack of) issue is a "do don't" -- without some way to use a phone hand and eyes free, well, thanks for playing. The GMC Acadia sales rep says there is a workaround, the Cadillac rep doesn't know anything about it. The back seat is tiny eh? Well, I thought the same of the BMW 5 series and find my A6's rear seats and room to be fine. The rear seat issue, for me, would not deter my acquisition -- BT on the other hand, well -- that's a different issue. I looked at the new (not really new) 2008 A6 3.2. The new wheels look nice. It is hard to tell, otherwise, that much has changed, even though I can find subtle differences. What is not so subtle is the new MSRP -- an essentially base A6 now crosses $50K. My 2005, all optioned, A6 was $53K, the 2008 would be perhaps $58K for essentially the same car (with a backup camera, that mine does not have.) The 5 series could be a contender, as could the new A4 -- the Cadillac seems like GM's best effort ever though and already the MSRP -$2000 is the asking price. Seems, BT notwithstanding, a heck of a deal.
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 05, 2007 3:51 am) While it makes absolutely no difference to me, it's clear that many who drive cars in this category consider this a deal breaker. OnStar is an expensive (for both the user & the provider) partial solution to a question that can be answered much more effectively & efficiently elsewhere and that many of us never even ask. I wonder what the over/under is on when OnStar goes bust?
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