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#9391 of 10005 Re: what to do [ls430] by topspin628 Sep 02, 2007 (1:15 pm)
Replying to: ls430 (Sep 02, 2007 8:24 am) I am in the same exact boat as you. I liked my LS430 but to be honest,I grew a bit bored of it. The LS460 drives very similar to me (I swear if I were blindfolded, I would not be able to tell the difference) and the lease is 3-400 dollars more per month. I just don't see it, although I do like the new styling. The Infiniti M that was reccomended, just does not feel like it's even near the same league as far as top line luxury. The doors felt light and cheap and I didn't care for the seats. It feels like a big step down from the LS. The BMW 5 series is my leading choice at the moment. It's much sportier but also has a high end feel and all of the tech stuff. You can also try an MB 350 E which handles a bit softer. I am not an Audi fan so I crossed that off my list. One sleeper you may want to check out (I am) is the Jag XJ8. It gives a similar ride to the LS but can be a bit more sporty if you push it. It's very quiet and luxurious and I think there are some very good deals which should make it quite a bit less expensive than the LS460. If all else fails and you are a Lexus devotee, then give the GS a shot. That would probably be the closest to the LS (although the ES that you don't like or the Toyota Avalon are probably 85% of an LS for 50% of the money). Lexus says that their new ES is actually a better car than the original LS 400. Hope this helps. Replies to this message: ls430 (Sep 02, 2007 1:47 pm) lexusguy (Sep 02, 2007 3:09 pm) carnaught (Sep 02, 2007 1:54 pm)
#9392 of 10005 Re: what to do [topspin628] by ls430 Sep 02, 2007 (1:47 pm)
Replying to: topspin628 (Sep 02, 2007 1:15 pm) both Lexusguy your answer help me a lot, I will take a look at both the Jag and the Infiniti. But I have this feeling I will end up keeping the ls-430 or getting a BMW, as you have said the LS-430 after having 2 of them is getting boring to drive although the interior amenities are perfect Replies to this message: lexusguy (Sep 02, 2007 3:09 pm)
#9393 of 10005 Re: what to do [topspin628] by carnaught Sep 02, 2007 (1:54 pm)
Replying to: topspin628 (Sep 02, 2007 1:15 pm) The 535 strikes a great balance between sport and luxury and is more fun to drive with the added bonus of much better gas mileage than the Infiniti M twins. I know, I've owned the latter.   If leasing is a strong consideration, the BMW makes the most sense. Its paid maintenance and BMW Assist are frosting on the cake.
#9394 of 10005 Re: what to do [ls430] by lexusguy Sep 02, 2007 (3:09 pm)
Replying to: ls430 (Sep 02, 2007 1:47 pm) I will take a look at both the Jag and the Infiniti.   Lightly used Jaguar XJs can be fantastic buys. The XJR is much faster and quite a bit sportier than the LS, while still being very comfortable, and you can get one for $40K. Its NAV system is touch screen based, and coming from a Lexus you should have no problems with it. If you want more space than the standard wheelbase XJR, the Vanden Plas or even the top-of-the-line Super V8 Portfolio are still very affordable, and driving a car that was originally $100K is a great feeling   The Jaguar XJ is by far the best bargain in the full-size class.
#9395 of 10005 Re: choosing the right luxury car [mojo1078] by hihomike Sep 03, 2007 (4:31 am)
Replying to: mojo1078 (Sep 01, 2007 11:45 am) Mojo1078, continue leaning toward the BMW 5-series. The new 535i surpasses the performance and handling of the Cadillac. Remember, the cadillac is a front-wheel drive vehicle, poor turning radius and steering torque. Power with excellent fuel economy are on the side of the BMW. Resale on the BMW is far superior to the Cadillac. Take my advice, you can't lose with the Bimmer Replies to this message: subearu (Sep 03, 2007 6:17 am) vavavavolvo (Sep 03, 2007 6:37 am) 150mphclub (Sep 03, 2007 8:58 am) mojo1078 (Sep 08, 2007 12:21 pm) kgary (Sep 09, 2007 3:26 am)
#9396 of 10005 Re: choosing the right luxury car [hihomike] by subearu Sep 03, 2007 (6:17 am)
Replying to: hihomike (Sep 03, 2007 4:31 am) FWIW, the '03-'07 CTS is RWD and the '08 has AWD available as an option.   -Brian
#9397 of 10005 Re: choosing the right luxury car [hihomike] by vavavavolvo Sep 03, 2007 (6:37 am)
Replying to: hihomike (Sep 03, 2007 4:31 am) >>"Resale on the BMW is far superior to the Cadillac. Take my advice, you can't lose with >>the Bimmer"   ...unless you are unlucky enough to get T-boned in it.   http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=122205
#9398 of 10005 Re: 2009 Jaguar XF [lexusguy] by markcincinnati Sep 03, 2007 (7:34 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 30, 2007 5:57 pm) I cannot argue your point (and I was not suggesting, literally, that AWD was added to increase carrying capacity.) My point, perhaps inaccurate, was that [I was told by Walter Rohrl (I do not know the facts, i.e., only what he told me)] the highest performance Porsches in terms of "winning" were the AWD versions.   What do you mean by performance, or can you point me to info that would contradict what Rohrl remarked? Replies to this message: lexusguy (Sep 03, 2007 12:37 pm) circlew (Sep 03, 2007 1:24 pm) lexusguy (Sep 03, 2007 6:11 pm)
#9399 of 10005 Re: choosing the right luxury car [hihomike] by 150mphclub Sep 03, 2007 (8:58 am)
Replying to: hihomike (Sep 03, 2007 4:31 am) Where do you get your information from? Cadillac has had rear wheel drive in the CTS since 2003.
#9400 of 10005 Re: what to do [ls430] by jcoby Sep 03, 2007 (10:49 am)
Replying to: ls430 (Sep 02, 2007 8:24 am) I will give you the same advice that I gave Topspin628 - get a BMW 5-series. I am a strong supporter of Lexus and would be glad to see you purchase another LS. However, I would be happier (not that my happiness matters in your car buying decision ) if you found a vehicle that is more suited to your needs and desires. It is not just the price increase that has you looking elsewhere - you are getting a little bored with the LS. Only the Infiniti M can rival the 5-series in this class in terms of handling performance and overall driving excitement, but BMW offers very competitive lease offers on many of their vehicles.   Just follow this link:   link title   It is quite likely that you will enjoy a substantial discount versus your current monthly lease payment by choosing the 5-series and you are also quite likely to enjoy your vehicle more than you currently enjoy your LS 430.   Life is too short to not get what you want when you have the financial means to do so and live in a country that gives you the opportunity to freely fulfill those desires. Get what makes you happy and don't look back!

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