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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#9373 of 10348 Re: Most Comfortable Seats? [lovemyclk]
Aug 21, 2007 (1:36 pm)
Be careful testing seats in the showroom. We liked the comfort seats in the showroom, so we ordered it on our 2003 535i. That car had an "automatic" seat belt height adjustment which did raise and lower the belt on the door post, but it was uncomfortable for both my wife and I. We would have done better with the standard seats. My solution was to disconnect the automatic adjuster and live with it in one postion which was tolerable for my 5' wife.
When we replaced that car last year, we found that some BMW "design genius" decided that the car no longer needed any seat belt height adjustment at all...and the seat belt height was fixed on the door pillar. We sat in the various 5's and were uncomfortable with any of the seat options. As a result, we didn't even consider buying another BMW....we are enjoying our Infiniti.
Don't assume that more adjustments will be comfortable....have every driver try the seat with the seatbelt.
#9374 of 10348 Re: Most Comfortable Seats? [pearl]
Aug 21, 2007 (1:40 pm)
I find the bmw 535 extra comfort seat to be as comfortable as my a8 Audi seat.....I think alot of discomfort on five hundred mile trips has to do with age ..Even when you get the seat just right, after several hours you just begin to get un-comfortable...Tony
Aug 24, 2007 (10:08 am)
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#9376 of 10348 RE Most Comfortable Seats
Aug 27, 2007 (1:36 pm)
I have owned Lexus and Volvo. By far, the olvo has he most comfortable seats and are ergonomically designed. Many of my friends have commented about the comfort of the Volvo seats. I have owned two S80s. I have driven over 600 miles in one day with no other driver to give me a break. When I got to my desitination, my back didn't hurt, my legs didn't hurt, nothing hurt and I felt great. Now I am 50 plus so..........I swear by Volvo for their seats.
#9377 of 10348 Re: Most Comfortable Seats? [lovemyclk]
Aug 29, 2007 (4:01 pm)
lovemyclk, why did you get the spt on the 530? Was the standard suspension not responsive enough? Do you always get spt suspensions? I am trying to decide whether to get it on my next 5. You cant really tell in short test drives whether you like something like that. I like responsiveness but dont like to feel and hear every pebble in the road.
Aug 29, 2007 (4:26 pm)
I'm in the market for a new luxury sedan.
Currently driving a 2005 Acura RL. Would prefer a sporty coupe, but my lifestyle does not allow for that yet:)
Today I spoke with our local Jaguar dealer about the XF. They expect the first ones at their showroom in March or April of 2008. Since we live in the snowy part of this country I prefer a car with AWD. The salesman told me that the XF would not be available with AWD. He said there is just not enough demand for AWD except in certain regions of the country.
I find this "demand" remark to be someewhat strange since the BMW 5 series, Audis, Infiniti Ms, Cadillac CTS, Acura RL, Mercedes,Lexus all have models with AWD.
Guess if I want an XF will have to buy snow tires!
#9379 of 10348 Re: Most Comfortable Seats? [richardga73]
Aug 29, 2007 (5:31 pm)
Having driven both in Germany and the U.S., I simply had to get the SP for the more responsive handling, braking and "comfort". The articulating sport seats in my 2003 provide increased support for my long legs. I also prefer the feel of the "M" steering wheel while driving. Finally, my 2-piece BBS-style wheels are gorgeous on my Titanium Silver car.
Comfort is subjective, but to me the absolutely planted feel of my car on the road at all speeds defines the word. I also prefer the seat design over the standard seat due to the more pronounced bolsters.
The new 535i SP has the Comfort Seats as standard in the SP pkg and they are amazing. They even have an adjustable setting on the headrest for the neck. Seat cushioning a bit softer, but still designed with the extendible thigh support and bolsters.
#9380 of 10348 Re: 2009 Jaguar XF [lynnminny]
Aug 29, 2007 (9:08 pm)
Since we live in the snowy part of this country I prefer a car with AWD. The salesman told me that the XF would not be available with AWD. He said there is just not enough demand for AWD except in certain regions of the country.
Not enough demand... or Jag can't do one and that's the salesman's excuse. The XF is based on a heavily revised DEW98 platform. No DEW98 car has ever offered AWD. The platform may simply not be capable of it. Or, perhaps Jag simply can't afford to do it. Every other car in the mid-lux segment - 5, E, A6, M, GS, RL, S80, and STS all offer AWD in at least one trim level, so clearly there's demand for AWD.
#9381 of 10348 Re: 2009 Jaguar XF [lynnminny]
Aug 30, 2007 (3:41 am)
Acura, Audi, BMW, Cadillac, Infiniti, Lexus, Lincoln, Mercedes, Porsche, Volkswagen, Volvo -- and even Jaguar (honorable mention) offer AWD models. These mfgr's are, generally, adding more AWD models to their lineups. Of course this list doesn't include (but it could) Ford, Mercury, Subaru and, and, and -- and a whole host of other cars from all around the planet.
The proliferation of AWD advances, it is hardly retreating. Why the salesperson would remark about the lack of demand is probably because he can't offer it in the car he might stand a chance of selling you. Perhaps to persuade you to change your mind, the salesperson planted the suggestion that (implied?) ". . .AWD had its chance and demand was insufficient to justify it."
If you follow the trickle down, the LPS car brands get AWD, then the ELPS will get it, and pretty soon virtually all cars (or so the trend would seem to suggest) will at least offer "available" AWD.
It [AWD] sells cars, no matter what their "breeding."
Your salesperson probably believes what he/she said -- I would simply say, "he is misinformed."