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#9341 of 10006 Re: 535Xi [bazohimba] by topspin628 Jul 10, 2007 (5:02 am)
Replying to: bazohimba (Jul 08, 2007 5:48 pm) FYI on leasing. Just shop for best purchase price and then have them convert to a lease using that negotiated price, the money factor (interest)and residual (these should be standard if each dealer is using MB Credit) and the amount of months that you decide to lease for. These numbers MUST be disclosed to you in the contract so they can't be fudged. And then make sure that you are clear on the "drive off costs" or out of pocket- money paid when you pick up the car. This is usually first payment, security deposit, taxes and title. So two dealers using the same exact numbers MUST come up with the same monthly payment and drive off costs or something is very wrong with one of them.     Also, make sure that no one is adding anything extra here that isn't required. This is an area where they can "pad" some profit. I once threatened to walk out of an Infiniti dealership where I was picking up a new car because they added a fee of 150 to pick up my plates from DMV. This was additional to DMV fees. Of course the dealer backed down and took it out of the contract when I told him that I wouldn't sign for the car with that fee. The salesman was a bit upset so I suspect that was some extra commission for him. My experience when leasing from MB and BMW is that it's very straight forward with no "games". Hope this helps.
#9342 of 10006 2008 Infiniti M45x sport announced by renssils Jul 22, 2007 (7:16 pm)
From your experience, would any of you Infiniti M45 owners go for a 2008 M45x sport? All wheel drive and sport package will be offered for MY 2008. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jul 22, 2007 8:41 pm) klpeel (Jul 23, 2007 5:19 am) lexusguy (Jul 23, 2007 9:18 am) and 1 more...
#9343 of 10006 Re: 2008 Infiniti M45x sport announced [renssils] by lexusguy Jul 22, 2007 (8:41 pm)
Replying to: renssils (Jul 22, 2007 7:16 pm) From your experience, would any of you Infiniti M45 owners go for a 2008 M45x sport? All wheel drive and sport package will be offered for MY 2008.   Very interesting, I'm surprised that Infiniti is making major changes to the M so quickly. The M45x will definitely be on my "must test drive" list. Replies to this message: klpeel (Jul 23, 2007 5:19 am) lexusguy (Jul 23, 2007 9:18 am) rayainsw (Jul 23, 2007 9:27 am)
#9344 of 10006 Re: 2008 Infiniti M45x sport announced [lexusguy] by klpeel Jul 23, 2007 (5:19 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 22, 2007 8:41 pm) I don't know about the sport package, but the M45x is my target car for around the end of this year. I am curious to see the external appearance changes mentioned in Infiniti's press release, though. Does anyone know if any pictures are yet available of the updated 2008?   And BTW, I wouldn't consider these "major changes." The one significant change is the availability of AWD for the V8 version. The other changes are technology updates or refreshes of various kinds. The basic car is the same. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jul 23, 2007 9:18 am) rayainsw (Jul 23, 2007 9:27 am)
#9345 of 10006 Re: 2008 Infiniti M45x sport announced [klpeel] by lexusguy Jul 23, 2007 (9:18 am)
Replying to: klpeel (Jul 23, 2007 5:19 am) And BTW, I wouldn't consider these "major changes." The one significant change is the availability of AWD for the V8 version. The other changes are technology updates or refreshes of various kinds. The basic car is the same.   When I said "major changes", I meant that the car is getting its mid-cycle refresh a year early, which in addition to the AWD V8 includes both a revised exterior and interior, the G35's new HDD based NAV system, new colors and the change to white gauges like in the G. Replies to this message: rayainsw (Jul 23, 2007 9:27 am)
#9346 of 10006 Re: 2008 Infiniti M45x sport announced [lexusguy] by rayainsw Jul 23, 2007 (9:27 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 23, 2007 9:18 am) “the car is getting its mid-cycle refresh a year early,”   But – no 6-speed automatic. Or any revision to the gearing. Meaning ( I’m guessing ) that the relatively poor fuel economy and the relatively high RPM at cruise will remain – likely for 2 more years.   Odd, indeed. . . ( to me ) - Ray
#9347 of 10006 535Xi fuel economy by bruceomega Jul 23, 2007 (10:38 am)
FWIW,   I included this in a longer post in a 5 series thread. While I don't think gas mileage should be a make or break factor for cars in this price category, I do appreciate efficiency.   We took the first road trip in our 535Xi this past weekend, about 250 miles each way. Car now has about 1200 miles. Just for grins, I ran a test to check highway gas mileage. After I got up to speed on Interstate I-81 in the Shenandoah Valley, I reset the avg mph and avg mpg on the car’s computer, and tried to drive at a constant 75 mph while not being heavy-footed with the gas.   At the end of a 90 mile stretch on the first day, the display read an avg mph of 73.4, and an avg mpg of 27.6. On the second day, at the end of a 40 mile stretch, I averaged 73.8 mph and 30.1 mpg (on less hilly terrain).   Thanks Bruce Replies to this message: shipo (Jul 23, 2007 10:42 am)
#9348 of 10006 Re: 535Xi fuel economy [bruceomega] by shipo Jul 23, 2007 (10:42 am)
Replying to: bruceomega (Jul 23, 2007 10:38 am) Wait until the engine is fully broken in. My 530i didn't start getting its best mileage until it had over 20,000 miles on the clock.   Best Regards, Shipo
#9349 of 10006 2008 Infiniti M45x Sport by renssils Jul 25, 2007 (4:20 pm)
Any comments on the 2008 M45x Sport, especially from M45, M45 Sport, M35x and M35 Sport owners?
#9350 of 10006 2008 5 Series - Crash Test by circlew Aug 16, 2007 (2:55 am)
It looks like there is an issue with the side impact. Here is the news.   http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070816/crash_tests_sedans.html?.v=7   Regards, OW

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