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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [aveghte] by james27
May 02, 2007 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: aveghte (May 02, 2007 3:03 pm)

I think that I would query the manufacturer directly and not rely on a salesman with unknown technical knowledge. The safest place for the child is proably the middle of the back seat, but that makes it harder to reach, but then again, you shouldn't be doing that while driving anyways. Might make it easier to view in the mirror, though.
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [aveghte] by kgary
May 02, 2007 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: aveghte (May 02, 2007 3:03 pm)

I have an 05 A6 4.2 with the rear airbags. The rear seats have a sensor and the airbags will only deploy if there is more than 50 pounds in the seat. As a result, I doubt the airbag will deploy if only a small child is back there. I know about the sensor because it has broken twice.
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [aveghte] by lexusguy
May 03, 2007 (12:04 am)
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Replying to: aveghte (May 02, 2007 3:03 pm)

I think I would agree with james27, ask the manufacturers themselves. You can't trust the sales guy to either know what he's talking about or not just tell you what you want to hear to try and make a sale.
 
Since safety seems to be a critical issue for you, I'd highly recommend checking out both the IIHS and EuroNCAP scores for each of these cars. The NHTSA tests are pretty weak.
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [aveghte] by kyfdx HOST
May 03, 2007 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: aveghte (May 02, 2007 3:03 pm)

I think the rear side airbags in the BMW can be disabled.. In fact, they are shipped that way. You have to ask the dealer to activate them.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [aveghte] by jlbl
May 03, 2007 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: aveghte (May 02, 2007 3:03 pm)

Rear side airbags is standard equipment in an E60 BMW 5. I hesitate to say that in this forum because, I thought, may be it is different in the USA. I think too that they can be disabled. Yet the BMW dealer you ask to seems to know badly the car
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [kgary] by fonefixer
May 05, 2007 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: kgary (May 02, 2007 5:00 pm)

KGARY- What kind of gas mileage are you making on your 4.2 and how has the reliability been holding up?
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [fonefixer] by kgary
May 05, 2007 (12:43 pm)
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Replying to: fonefixer (May 05, 2007 11:48 am)

Around town she does about 14, on the highway about 25.
 
As far as reliability, she is ok, but she is no Lexus. Most of the problems have been nuisances. Some of which may be because I have one of the early 05s.
 
The airbag light came on two weeks after I purchased the car. It took them 10 days to figure out the problem. Audi then came out with a TSB on updating the computer software for the airbags.
 
The MMI "crashed" a year after I bought the car. After having the car for 8 days, Audi wiped the hardware clean and reinstalled the MMI computer software.
 
The MMI had a few bugs with not updating the satellite radio stations, losing surround settings and sometimes not automatically linking with my bluetooth phone. Audi had the car for a day and updated the MMI computer software. Audi has a TSB on this issue as well.
 
I have written those three problems off to having a very early computer software version. To give you an idea of the number of changes in the software, my car came with MMI version 10 and now has version 33. Since being updated to MMI version 33, about two months ago, I have not had any computer issues.
 
As far as non-computer issues. I have had only two. The first was that all 8 coil packs had to be replaced. The second was the lid for the gas cap would not open from inside the car. In order to open it I had to wedge my credit card inside the lid and open it from the outside. Audi had the car for 2 days to fix these problems. Once again Audi has TSBs on both of these issues. According to the TSBs Audi corrected both of these problems about halfway through the 05 model year.
 
Despite the car being at the dealer for 21 days for repairs during the last 27 months, not maintenance, I would certainly buy the car again because it is a lot of fun to drive and the dealer gives me a loaner. However, I would check which MMI software version is currently in the car. If it is below 33, I would take it to Audi and have it updated as soon as possible. In addition, I would check the car's VIN and compare it to the Audi TSBs and see what issues you need to keep an eye on. While the car is still under warranty, I would make sure you complain about any issues contained on the TSBs issued for your VIN.
 
Good luck.
 
Kevin
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [kgary] by fonefixer
May 08, 2007 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: kgary (May 05, 2007 12:43 pm)

I drove an A6 2.7T for almost 7 years and 100,000 miles. Bought new and purchased the extended service plan almost as an afterthought. This car would have virtually bankrupted me w/o the extended warranty.Had problems such as vibrating brakes,broken door locks, leaking engine seals, and blown turbos.Almost $15,000 worth of warranty service! Used Mobil 1 changed every 5,000 miles, checked oil level at every fuel stop. Gave up on the franchised dealer (due to poor service) and found (through the internet) an independent shop that honored the extended service plan.Paid $41,500 new and sold for $11,500 to a private party last October.
 
Purchased a Cx-7 Mazda crossover van, currently 10,000 miles, no issues to date. Of course, it is hard to predict the reliability of any vehicle, but it would be very difficult for me to go with Audi in the future.
 
If you had bought your Audi used, with no warranty, the repair bill would be in the thousands for what has been replaced /repaired per your current "list".
 
From my 6+ years experience with Audi, it is a sport luxury car that should be leased for 3 years or so under full warranty, and then turned back in for something else. Long term ownership does not appear to be a good financial decision. My Audi had "an unbelieveable sensor system and is/was one of the most difficult cars to repair on the road today"--quote by my mechanic!
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [fonefixer] by lexusguy
May 08, 2007 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: fonefixer (May 08, 2007 7:18 am)

My Audi had "an unbelieveable sensor system and is/was one of the most difficult cars to repair on the road today"--quote by my mechanic!
 
The previous generation A6 is pretty notorious as being incredibly problem prone, and for mechanical rather than electrical problems as you would expect to find on a Mercedes. In the last few years Audi seems to have cleaned up their act pretty well. There's still no way I would own one out of warranty, but I'd say that about pretty much every European car. I think a new Q7 is probably a lot less likely to have problems than the ML\GL\R classes.
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [lexusguy] by fonefixer
May 08, 2007 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 08, 2007 9:43 am)

Being the owner of a relatively new Audi luxury auto, I shouldn't have had to research, and purchase on my own initiative-- replacement non-OEM drilled front rotors to cure the brake vibration problem at 65 mph +. New car ownership should
 
n't be that hard and inconvenient. Was never able to go 10,000 miles w/o something major happening.
 
At this point, it has been a pleasure to drive a Mazda cx-7 for 10,000 miles without a repair incident.

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