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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: The other sports sedan class [tayl0rd] by jjacura
Apr 25, 2007 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 09, 2007 5:28 am)

Interesting post...taylOrd. I haven't read this forum in a while but I see some familiar posters here after all this time. The 2005 RL continues to run perfectly after 29,000 miles with no complaints from me. It is serving us well in our retirement. The miles are mostly city driving so it is a pretty good reliability test so far. Last time in here the Infiniti M's were the rage. What's happening these days in this forum... Audi or Lexus kicking butt?
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Re: The other sports sedan class [jjacura] by lexusguy
Apr 26, 2007 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: jjacura (Apr 25, 2007 8:31 am)

The situation hasn't changed much since last year. The 5 and E continue to rule the segment, with the M holding down third place. The only real race will be for last place after the S80's "brand new" sales bubble evaporates.
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Lease by alexanderk
Apr 26, 2007 (11:41 pm)
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What are the payments on 36 month lease with 0 down on 2007 BMW 550i vs MBZ E/CLS 550 vs LEXUS GS450h ? MSRP around $65000.
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Re: Lease [alexanderk] by pat HOST
Apr 27, 2007 (1:28 am)
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Replying to: alexanderk (Apr 26, 2007 11:41 pm)

The best thing to do would be to check the Lease Questions discussions for each of those vehicles. These links should help:
 
BMW 5-Series: Lease Questions
 
Lexus GS 450h: Lease Questions
 
Mercedes-Benz E-Class: Lease Questions
 
Mercedes-Benz CLS Class: Lease Questions
 
Welcome to CarSpace!
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Partial April Sales by drtravel
May 01, 2007 (11:54 am)
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Lexus GS - 1,887
Infiniti M - 1,872
Audi A6 - 898
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Re: Partial April Sales [drtravel] by rayainsw
May 01, 2007 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (May 01, 2007 11:54 am)

Caddy STS - 1815
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Re: Partial April Sales [rayainsw] by drtravel
May 01, 2007 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: rayainsw (May 01, 2007 12:00 pm)

Mercedes E-Class - 4,011
BMW 5-Series - 3,592
Acura RL - 658
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child safety with rear side air bags by aveghte
May 02, 2007 (3:03 pm)
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My wife and I are looking at the Audi A6, Mercedes E350, Lexus GS350 and BMW 5-series. We have a 3-year-old child who sits in a front-facing car seat usually on the passenger side of the vehicle. Rear side airbags are standard equipment in the Mercedes and Lexus and are optional equipment in the Audi and BMW.
 
The Audi and BMW salesmen say that the rear side airbags are only safe for adult passengers because the deployment of this airbag in a side impact accident could injure a child sitting in a car seat next to the side where the accident occurs.
 
The Mercedes salesman says that the rear side airbag only comes out 3 inches from the side door so it should not injure a child sitting in a car seat.
 
The Lexus salesman says that he has never heard of child safety concerns with rear side airbags.
 
Are all rear side airbags the same or are the airbags that come as standard equipment in the Mercedes smaller? Also are rear side airbags just unsafe for infants sitting in rear-facing child seats or also for larger children sitting in front-facing convertible child seats and booster seats?
 
Thanks for your help - the reason my wife and I are buying a car in this price segment is to get more safety in case of an accident, not less!
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [aveghte] by carnaught
May 02, 2007 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: aveghte (May 02, 2007 3:03 pm)

You are understandably concerned about safety. Have you considered a Volvo S80?
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Re: child safety with rear side air bags [aveghte] by habitat1
May 02, 2007 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: aveghte (May 02, 2007 3:03 pm)

You might want to surf the web for some "official" safety information on side impact airbags from sources like NHTSA, etc.
 
However, it is my understanding that a 3+ year old child properly buckled in a properly installed front facing safety seat should be fine. GEICO ran a safety test a couple of years ago and found that the vast majority of car seats are not properly installed. Too much slack in the seat belt and installed too close to the door (i.e. up on the side bolsters) were the most common mistakes. My wife scored an "A", but questioned at that time whether the side curtain airbags in our MDX were a safety issue. The response she got was that side airbags and curtains were positive safety features, contingent upon proper installation of the car seat, so that it couldn't be tipped or twisted by the airbag deployment.

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