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Replying to: dewey (Apr 03, 2007 4:30 pm) In the case of the BMW 3 vs. 5, there is the small matter of the fact that the 3er got the new engines months before the 5. My guess is that once the 528i and 535i hit the streets, sales will pick up. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 03, 2007 4:30 pm) Perhaps, but 2700 is still a very good month for Infiniti. Its usually neck and neck with the GS, but they hammered Lexus this month. That "not that reliable for a Lexus" report from CR certainly can't be helping the Lexus, especially when the M is CR's all-star luxury car.
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 03, 2007 5:08 pm) BMW M5 sales dropped 66 percent to hit a grand total of 128 cars for March. Wonder if there is a supply issue and God-forbid if it is a demand issue. I mean the new Audi RS6 isn't even selling yet.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 03, 2007 5:49 pm) The charts provided by Toyota linked below appear to have an error. On the March 07 sales list there are no Lexus GS350s? I guess the GS300 figures represents the GS350 figures? Lexus Sales |
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 03, 2007 6:28 pm) I'm not sure you can make much of a singel month comparison for a limited production car like the M5. I was in a large BMW dealer last week, and when I asked if they had any unsold 6-speed M5's, they indicated their was still a 6+ month wait. That said, I do not think the current M5 is as revered as the previous model, notwithstanding it's great V10 engine. The interior layout of the current 5 series and the i-drive gymnasitics you have to go through to tap into all 500 horsepower would be a turnoff to me. I believe that BMW needs to re-think making the 3 series and 5-series into more driver oriented cars from an interior design and functionality standpoint. And they really need to re-draw the 6-series. It is butt-ugly, literally and figuratively. Someone parked a Toyota Solara next to a 650i in front of the dealership and the two looked way too similar from the rear.
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Replying to: briantucson (Apr 02, 2007 5:53 pm) The fact that you are going for a used car will also limit the population of cars you can acquire, too. You didn't mention any "need" (different than a preference) for AWD. Knowing what I know, reading (too much) of what I read and seeing all the bytes we post here on edmunds and elsewhere, I would say "none of the above." I would also say, if you think 10 years and continue to think your posted choice, you CAN afford a new car. Right now, the Acura dealers (those with inventory) are on a tear with the new MDX, RDX -- the RL's are gathering dust. The RL is, considering content and performance, moving up the value scale every day. A new RL stands a better chance of being the best choice (thinking of money) for the 10 year journey than any of these used Germans. The BMW may be eligible for an extended BMW brand warranty (beyond mere CPO'ing which you would have to do with any of these.) The Audi, and I have one, seems, to me, at 34,000+ miles to be as tight and "new" as it did the day I leased it. My lease runs out in 14,000 miles (I bought 3,000 extra to get me through to the end "just in case" I don't bail out a few months early.) My current A6 (2005 3.2) is the first car in a long time, I would actually consider keeping a year or so longer. But, these Germans are "breathtakingly expensive" to keep out of warranty. And after the service pack runs out, heck even an oil change is a $100 affair. The MB CDI has something going for it in that the engine OUGHT to go the distance. Small comfort if everything else around it becomes a vacuum for money. You can afford a new RL -- they're giving them away. $11 down, $11 a month and if you don't have the $11, we'll loan it to you. Come one, come all to Kash's Big Bargain Barn Acura dealer, just a mental block and a bridge from downtown Cincinnapolis. 
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Apr 04, 2007 4:15 am) $11 down, $11 a month and if you don't have the $11, we'll loan it to you. Come one, come all to Kash's Big Bargain Barn Acura dealer, just a mental block and a bridge from downtown Cincinnapolis. " You crack me up. So - when you 'retire', you'll be sellin' cars - right? - Ray Willing to drive most any distance just to see THAT . . . |
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Replying to: bruceomega (Apr 03, 2007 12:01 pm) |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 04, 2007 2:54 am) If that is the case then the low M5 sales is a due to some supply issue(too low production levels). I believe that BMW needs to re-think making the 3 series and 5-series into more driver oriented cars from an interior design and functionality standpoint. I agree. The best car that will fit your above description could be a 1 series M Class. Due to BMW history I guarantee such a beast will not be called an M1. I dont know how the idrive is in the M5 but I do know how it is in my wife's BMW 530xi Touring. It's not bad at all once you get used to it. Also the dashboard is not so cluttered with buttons. Having said that I love the simplicity of my non-idrive BMW335i sedan much better. The only options I chose for my car is a sport package and metallic paint. Any other option for me is a frivolous waste of money. By the way do you have any idea if the new M3 will have idrive as standard? |
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Apr 04, 2007 4:15 am) Maybe? Have you actually owned an Audi out of warranty? In my particular case for the last quarter of a century I've owned many German cars out of warranty and so far my wallet remains intact. If my experiences were otherwise then I would not have bought two new German cars last year.(I am a frugal fellow by nature who hates spending a lot of money on repairs) Maybe my positive experiences has something to do with having a great independent auto mechanic that specializes in BMWs? I avoid the dealerships like a financial plague.
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