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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Partial March sales figures by drtravel
Apr 03, 2007 (12:31 pm)
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5-Series 4,315
E-Class 4,019
A6 1,038
RL 719
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Re: 535xi vs 350 4matic with sport package.. [tayl0rd] by lexusguy
Apr 03, 2007 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 03, 2007 10:21 am)

No, even with SH-AWD, to me, the RL is merely adequate. I wouldn't call it sporting. Many owners have, though. Just a difference of driving styles and what's acceptable to the individual.
 
The RL isn't a sports sedan. There was a test (I think it may have been on Fifth Gear with the Honda Legend badge) where it was on a race track, and it was all body roll and tire-squealing understeer. The "super-handling" bit just keeps it from having atrocious understeer. Audi is able to disguise the A6's FWD nature, but Acura hasn't really learned that trick.
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STS 1555 by rayainsw
Apr 03, 2007 (1:56 pm)
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March deliveries:
STS 1,555 = off 32.4% from March 2006....
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Re: Partial March sales figures [drtravel] by drtravel
Apr 03, 2007 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Apr 03, 2007 12:31 pm)

Infiniti M 2,768
Lexus GS 2,103
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Re: Partial March sales figures [drtravel] by lexusguy
Apr 03, 2007 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Apr 03, 2007 2:10 pm)

Infiniti M 2,768
Lexus GS 2,103

 
Interesting, that may be the M's best month yet.
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Re: Partial March sales figures [lexusguy] by dewey
Apr 03, 2007 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 03, 2007 2:27 pm)

Control your enthusiasm.
 
M sales are up merely 1.5 percent for March and down year to date by about 6 percent compared to 06 figures.
 
What is interesting is that every single car in the LSP segment is faced with declining or at best stagnant sales.
 
Are buyers flocking to smaller sibling models like the BMW 3 and Infinti M. Apparently that seems to be the case.
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Re: Partial March sales figures [dewey] by shipo
Apr 03, 2007 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 03, 2007 4:30 pm)

"Are buyers flocking to smaller sibling models like the BMW 3 and Infinti M. Apparently that seems to be the case."
 
In the case of the BMW 3 vs. 5, there is the small matter of the fact that the 3er got the new engines months before the 5. My guess is that once the 528i and 535i hit the streets, sales will pick up.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Partial March sales figures [dewey] by lexusguy
Apr 03, 2007 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 03, 2007 4:30 pm)

M sales are up merely 1.5 percent for March and down year to date by about 6 percent compared to 06 figures.
 
Perhaps, but 2700 is still a very good month for Infiniti. Its usually neck and neck with the GS, but they hammered Lexus this month. That "not that reliable for a Lexus" report from CR certainly can't be helping the Lexus, especially when the M is CR's all-star luxury car.
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Re: Partial March sales figures [shipo] by dewey
Apr 03, 2007 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 03, 2007 5:08 pm)

Interstingly the BMW 5 series still remains the leader of the pack in the LPS class despite an 18 percent March sales drop. Which is surprising considering that the MB E Class model has been recently refreshed. I am sure the 5 series is going to get a nice boost from 528/535 sales.
 
BMW M5 sales dropped 66 percent to hit a grand total of 128 cars for March. Wonder if there is a supply issue and God-forbid if it is a demand issue. I mean the new Audi RS6 isn't even selling yet.
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Re: Partial March sales figures [lexusguy] by dewey
Apr 03, 2007 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 03, 2007 5:49 pm)

Similarily to the updated MB E Class I would have thought that the new and improved Lexus GS350 would have higher sales. But that is not the case for both these models. I am sure CR's verdict has more weight on the sales of Lexuses than on the sales of the German marques. Despite MB being the lowest of the low in terms of CR's ratings their total sales have increased .
 
The charts provided by Toyota linked below appear to have an error. On the March 07 sales list there are no Lexus GS350s? I guess the GS300 figures represents the GS350 figures?
 
Lexus Sales

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