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Replying to: uglybear (Apr 03, 2007 5:54 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 03, 2007 6:05 am) |
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| oh, i'm definitely considering the E 350 4matic with the sport package. does it make it a better competitor with the 5 series if that is the case? btw. thanks for the replies.. | |
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Replying to: djkidoc (Apr 03, 2007 6:51 am) But back to the BMW. Without the sport package, I'd say it's on par with the Lexus GS and Acura RL. No, even with SH-AWD, to me, the RL is merely adequate. I wouldn't call it sporting. Many owners have, though. Just a difference of driving styles and what's acceptable to the individual.
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Replying to: briantucson (Apr 02, 2007 5:53 pm) If you want a stable ride with both comfort and sportiness, I think Audi offers both, packaged together, to a greater extent than the other two brands. If you were to get the Air Suspension you would be able the better adjust the ride comfort to suit your needs. Dynamic mode for the times you're in the mood for some fun. Comfort mode for those bumpy roads. Also, you have the option of standard Drive mode, for regular driving, vs Sport mode, which allows for quicker down shifts and slower up shifts. And don't forget the Sports Seats, added comfort along with better support. But, I've notice that most of the Audis out there come with Standard Suspension. Which really does a disservice to the Audi brand. Do try to find one with Sport or Air suspension. To quote tayl0rd : If you skip the sport package, you might as well skip the BMW altogether I would somewhat agree for the Audi as well, w/ and w/o Sport Package is like driving two different cars. Although one does have the added benefits of having Quattro in the Audi. I think for your needs, you will be very pleased with the A6. Not too hard, not too soft... just right. |
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 03, 2007 10:21 am) But back to the BMW. Without the sport package, I'd say it's on par with the Lexus GS and Acura RL. Blasphemy. What you're saying is akin to a pro golfer telling a 5-handicap golfer that he's the same as a 20-handicap. It's inaccurate. You just have no tolerance for anything less than a BMW sport suspension.
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Replying to: designman (Apr 03, 2007 11:06 am) Good analogy and correct statement. I drive a 2003 M5, so I could claim that any non-"M" BMW isn't worth it. And that would be equally absurd. The non-sport 5-series is second only to the 5-series sport models in handling, steering and driving dynamics in this segment. Nothing by Audi, Mercedes, Acura, Infiniti or Lexus is going to handle as precisely. I could disparage each and every one of those nameplates with criticisms such as "Audi's are obese pigs", but that's just being obnoxious. All of these cars have some quality attributes. But none have the driving dynamics of the BMW 5-series, IMO. Take plenty of test drives for yourself. |
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Replying to: kivi (Apr 03, 2007 5:26 am) Did you drive a 535Xi? Or is that what you were considering based on driving a 530i/530Xi? Reason I ask is I didn't think the 535's were out yet, although you can apparently order them. Thanks Bruce
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5-Series 4,315 E-Class 4,019 A6 1,038 RL 719
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 03, 2007 10:21 am) The RL isn't a sports sedan. There was a test (I think it may have been on Fifth Gear with the Honda Legend badge) where it was on a race track, and it was all body roll and tire-squealing understeer. The "super-handling" bit just keeps it from having atrocious understeer. Audi is able to disguise the A6's FWD nature, but Acura hasn't really learned that trick. |
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