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Re: BMW 2008 5 Series Brochure .pdf [rayainsw] by markcincinnati
Mar 09, 2007 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Mar 09, 2007 5:24 am)

OMG -- the picture (side/profile) on page one looks like the fraternal twin of the 2005 A6.
 
The head on pictures now look slightly less like a Pontiac, but still the "Pontiac-popularized" slant eyed look remains.
 
The Audi trout mouth is an acquired taste, to be sure; but, the BMW 5 still (to my eye, and for all I know, my eye alone) is, er, butt oogly.
 
They are great driving machines, however, and one would think that is what must be the deciding factor. On the other hand, it is written, somewhere, by somebody, that STYLE sells.
 
Hats off, averted eyes and bowed in reverence head -- BMW rules.
 
I like the looks of the 3, X3 and X5 much better than this thing.
 
To each his/her own.
 
Love the write up about the engine though -- wonder what Audi and Mercedes will respond with. The 255HP Audi and even the Mercedes 6, are outclassed by the twin-turbo Bimmer's motivator.
 
Eyes still averted.
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Why does love have to be so sad? by markcincinnati
Mar 09, 2007 (8:15 am)
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Re: Why does love have to be so sad? [markcincinnati] by lexusguy
Mar 09, 2007 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Mar 09, 2007 8:15 am)

Thats the same reason I didn't get the radar cruise on my XK. The car stays much too far back, so you'd be stuck in a perpetual "no, after you" cycle. No thanks, I have places to be.
 
Those clueless left lane hogs just drive me up the wall. The worst experience I've had with one in recent memory is a guy who was matching the speed of the car in the right lane, about 1 car length back. Plenty of room for him to move over, but not enough room for me to pass on the right. After this went on for about 5 minutes, I gave him the high-beam flash, at which point he slammed on the brakes. A real peach. I went right and accelerated, but he floored it so that I'd be stuck behind the guy in the right lane, and then matched the speed of the guy in front of me again. After a second car in the left lane came up behind him (he was going 65 in a 65) he was forced to accelerate a bit, allowing me to get around the guy in front of me, and then go back into the right lane and pass him on the right.
 
Its one thing to have no idea that there are other cars on the road, but to maliciously do everything you can to stop someone from passing you? What kind of person does that?
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Re: Why does love have to be so sad? [lexusguy] by markcincinnati
Mar 09, 2007 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 09, 2007 8:53 am)

A very dangerous person.
 
I recommend "American Autobahn," by Mark Rask. An interesting (but don't read the entire thing) read.
 
Lane discipline, so it seems, would be more important from a law enforcement perspective than speeding (tickets.)
 
Why? Improper "laning" is more dangerous and life threatening than speedling, apparently (according to Rask.)
 
I am NOT shilling for Rask, but here is something that I think rings true LG:
 
"American Autobahn will challenge everything you thought you knew about saving lives on the road. The life you save may be your own."
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Audi European Delivery by rayainsw
Mar 09, 2007 (10:15 am)
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I don't recall seeing this posted:
 
http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/experience/european_delivery/program_benefits- .html
 
- Ray
Who was very close to ED on a BMW a while back....
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Re: Audi European Delivery [rayainsw] by cdnpinhead
Mar 10, 2007 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Mar 09, 2007 10:15 am)

Excellent.
 
Finally.
 
Just today I noticed a red A3 2.0 that could go a ways towards making me pitch my RWD-only rule.
 
Thanks, Ray.
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Re: Audi European Delivery [cdnpinhead] by shipo
Mar 10, 2007 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Mar 10, 2007 1:02 pm)

I've driven the A3 2.0T three times now and I have to agree with you. For my next daily driver, the ONLY car with FWD I'd even consider is the A3. In fact, I like the car so much that it actually trumps a few other ELLPS RWD cars (CTS and IS to name two) in my mind.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: BMW 2008 5 Series Brochure .pdf [markcincinnati] by hauss
Mar 10, 2007 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Mar 09, 2007 7:35 am)

What's up with that crazy shifter? It looks like an arcade game joystick.
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Re: BMW 2008 5 Series Brochure .pdf [hauss] by lexusguy
Mar 11, 2007 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: hauss (Mar 10, 2007 7:54 pm)

What's up with that crazy shifter? It looks like an arcade game joystick.
 
It's a space saver for the iDrive controller, the better alternative to the column stub that M-B is still using.
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Re: My wife [uglybear] by habitat1
Mar 12, 2007 (1:17 am)
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Replying to: uglybear (Mar 03, 2007 11:30 am)

"FX45 does 0-60 in 6.3 seconds (FX35 in 7s) or so while MDX is 7.5 or so. 7.5 is rather slow. FX45 has nice exhaust note, sport suspension and excellent roadholding in turns (0.89g skidpad)."
 
You've answered my question. I've always wondered who in the world would by an FX45 - it seems like it's designed for the bi-polar demographic. As in, "I really want a sports car, but I (think) I need an SUV. So I'll get an SUV that emphasizes 'S' at the severe expense of 'U'". I
 
Admittedly, I've never been a fan of the FX design. A bit too "fugly" for me. But even when my wife and I were slightly tempted by the X5 and Cayenne, we quickly came to our senses and recognized that the U was a necessity. So we opted for the MDX that can actually handle snow, carry our kids and their friends and gets loaded up regularly for family vacations and trips. I guess some might see the FX as the best of both worlds. I think that's a little dillusional, but I respect that opinions vary greatly.
 
By the way - please don't feel too bad for us in our MDX. Our family of four fits just fine in our other vehicle. And if you are ever sitting at a stoplight feeling zesty in your FX45, don't pay any attention to my 8 year old daughter trying to egg you on from the back seat of our 911S Carrera Cabriolet as we pull up next to you. I never thought 7.5 seconds was all that slow for an SUV, but 6.3 seconds is pitifully slow for anyone that is more concerned about "S" than "U". (By about 2+ seconds).
 
I'm not sure what any of this has to do with luxury performance sedans, but since you started it, I thought I'd add a different perspective.

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