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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 01, 2007 6:58 pm) FX45 may be the ugliest car I've seen on the road. It can't compare with an MDX in any way except handling. It's an SUV and not meant to handle well- it's supposed to luxuriate. |
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Mar 01, 2007 3:16 pm) |
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Replying to: dhamilton (Mar 01, 2007 8:19 pm) '06 M45 Sport, all options, 10K miles, $44K. That's a great value. A new RL is not.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 01, 2007 9:26 pm) I just noticed, tho, the RL STILL has the 5 speed auto. The MDX, too, 5 speed. The HP and torque of these vehicles and the RPM's at which these numbers are attained, BEG for a 6 speed. I must admit, part of this curiosity has to do with some friends, now on their second Acura who -- after multiple Mercedes -- are just so pleased to have a car that can pass the dealership without needing a visit to fix this, that or the other problem area. We just pulled in to the Acura dealer after liking the Land Rover, but having some trepidation regarding its reliability and the $61K price tag (and the thirsty habits.) By the way, my wife said the Lincoln MKX was the first car she has ever test driven that if given to her free she would not want. She said it had the worst feel behind the wheel EVER! She wanted out of there so quickly, I didn't get to drive. Yet, the Lincoln from the passenger seat was very nice fit and finish wise, good seats, nice nav system. The Land Rover's nav system was leaps and bounds better than both Audis and BMW's BTW. The Land Rover had a voice command system that, too, was slightly ahead of the German's. The new X3, typically, had that BMW sedan feel and with the new 6 speed auto and that new gutsy engine seemed very quick and not at all flustered when pushed. The others, somewhat typically, are great (better than the Germans) when parked, the BMW (and other Germans to be fair) are great (better than the others) when being driven. Add a technology package to the Bimmer (a la MDX, Rover, Infiniti) and I'll avert my eyes (we're not worthy.) Hope springs eternal that the new CTS from Cadillac has merged some of the best of both worlds. Just in case, carry lemons and cover yourself in butter, "there's a lobster loose." 
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Mar 02, 2007 5:12 am) I must admit, part of this curiosity has to do with some friends, now on their second Acura who -- after multiple Mercedes -- are just so pleased to have a car that can pass the dealership without needing a visit to fix this, that or the other problem area. Same with Infiniti, at least for the moment. Thats the one issue I have with the M, it needs a 6th gear to get the revs down below 3K on the highway. The Nissan GT-R is rumored to be getting a DSG style sequential manual that should have at least 6 gears, and hopefully Infiniti will pick that up for use in its cars. For whatever its worth, C&D's long term test RL had 8 unscheduled service visits and constant electrical problems, from a car only a few months old. Acura's first MY products lately have been kind of buggy, so that would make me a bit nervous about the MDX. Lexus and Infiniti don't seem to have the same issues. On top of that I think the MDX is hideous, and I just don't like Acura all that much. There, I said it.
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Mar 02, 2007 5:12 am) Yet, the Lincoln from the passenger seat was very nice fit and finish wise, good seats, nice nav system. That reminds me of when one of my old Jags was at the body shop for a week, and they gave me a Chevy Monte Carlo as a loaner. To paraphrase Jeremy Clarkson, "I'd rather have bird flu". What did you think of the "that '70s show" interior? |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 02, 2007 10:32 am) 2. Honda 4. Acura 5. Lexus 8. Infinity Acura has always been rated near the top. I don't know where you get your info on reliability but you need to find a new reason not to like Acura. 
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Replying to: houdini1 (Mar 02, 2007 11:17 am) Acura tends to clean up their act by model year number two. However, the TSX had problems in its first MY, the TL had problems in its first MY, and the RL had problems in its first MY. Therefore, the chance is quite good that the MDX is going to have problems. Infiniti's rep gets hurt badly by the QX56, which has absolutely horrendous quality. Otherwise, their cars are first rate. The new GS seems to be having teething problems, but the new ES and IS have done well. |
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5-Series 3,482 E-Class 3,053 GS 1,563 A6 893 RL 395 (not a typo) Don't know Infiniti's numbers |
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Replying to: drtravel (Mar 02, 2007 12:34 pm)
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