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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: Can't Decide [pat] by houdini1
Feb 09, 2007 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Feb 09, 2007 1:42 pm)

Pat, ya got me!! Thought that was a good line so I borrowed it. It's a perfect fit for this forum!!
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Re: Can't Decide [lexusguy] by houdini1
Feb 09, 2007 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 09, 2007 1:11 pm)

So you can buy a $90K car for $35K a year or two later? If it depreciates that fast, why would you ever want to buy one? It would be doing the Taurus a disservice to compare the two!
 
While not perfect, I would still take the RL over that piece of junk!
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Re: Can't Decide [houdini1] by lexusguy
Feb 09, 2007 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Feb 09, 2007 2:52 pm)

So you can buy a $90K car for $35K a year or two later? If it depreciates that fast, why would you ever want to buy one? It would be doing the Taurus a disservice to compare the two!
  
While not perfect, I would still take the RL over that piece of junk!

 
XJs have always had horrific depreciation, and the new one is no exception. Look at how much an '03 XJR goes for now. My '00 XKR and a '00 911 CS sold new for very similar money. When I sold my car, that same 911 with similar mileage would go for almost double the price. That's just how it is with Jag. That doesn't mean the cars themselves are bad. (Ok the X-type and S-type are bad).
 
Thats why I would never buy a brand new XJ. As a lightly used car they are screaming deals though, especially considering how good QC at Jag has gotten. Is it any different than someone who paid $49K for an RL a week after launch? What's their car worth now? Maybe $28K.
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What has happened to this forum? by kgary
Mar 01, 2007 (3:49 am)
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Three weeks and not a single post? No passion about our cars? In order to generate more taffic on the forum, lets add Camrys and Accords to the list of cars to be discussed.
 
Kevin
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CR by garnet
Mar 01, 2007 (4:58 am)
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Kids,
Purchased new '06 RL in July, confident reliability ratings in Consumer Reports would score higher than '05 intro model. CR's just-published reliability stats prove me right. Quite a buy at $40.9 w/o my '96 RL as trade. (Two weeks later private sale netted $7k.) Not to boost none (unusual for a citizen senior)but I must say, nevertheless, as a cool RL owner going on for second decade, AM I HOT, OR NOT!?
Just wonderin as I wander,
gar
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Re: CR [garnet] by dhamilton
Mar 01, 2007 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: garnet (Mar 01, 2007 4:58 am)

The RL takes a beating from consumers, not so much from the press. At your price [and the price I negotiated for my BIL's 41k] It's the steal of the segment IMO.
 
Yeah, I really like this thread, to bad it's dying.
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Re: CR [garnet] by markcincinnati
Mar 01, 2007 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: garnet (Mar 01, 2007 4:58 am)

$40.9!
 
Wow!
 
Is this in response to demand? I would have to assume so.
 
I visted the Acura dealer with my wife, who is now in the 11 months to pull the trigger on the new "whatever" mode to replace her X3 -- looking at the new MDX.
 
"Yes, but its Japanese. . ." was heard before we went in, after we came out only sitting in, not driving, the MDX, not a peep on the subject.
 
We had driven, earlier that day a new Lincoln MKX and a LandRover HSE ($38,000 and $61,000 respectively.) Also drove a new X3 $48K, the MDX with everything, $48K.
 
Looks like the bargain of the bunch (the MDX) if it drives worth a damn.
 
Meanwhile on the other side of the showroom was an RL.
 
Didn't know one could be had for $40.9K, but it was pretty nice, but it seemed a little smaller than my A6.
 
I've been "pre-lusting" to drive a new Cadillac CTS 300HP AWD version and contemplating amongst other things its relative size and apparent graduation into the nearer to the LPS class. I'm thinkin' it will be mid $40's the way I would want it.
 
This would mean the RL might actually end up, say it with me, a very high value.
 
This would possibly require a paradigm shift in thinking, but I was close to an Infiniti M35X 21 months ago, so this would not be -- for me -- that much of a stretch.
 
Anyway -- the Acura seemed pretty much what the early on reviews said -- "a player in the LPS field." Car and Driver, as I recall actually was more complimentary of the RL than my A6. Of course they loved the Infiniti and called the Lexus a living room on wheels.
 
So, one would think at THESE PRICES with good reviews, Acura would not need a fire sale.
 
Yet, month after month the RL, as I recall, undersells even Audi's dismally selling A6 (but AudiUSA seems quite sanguine about its sales, because they, in relative terms just keep gettin' better.)
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Mark by dhamilton
Mar 01, 2007 (6:49 pm)
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I can't wait to hear what you and your wife think of the new MDX.
 
I think dynamics wise, it's a real hit, especially when price is considered.
 
The let down for me was the cheap feeling steering wheel. I think it's changed because the second time I drove it, it didn't bother me.
 
It's completely leap frogged the RX IMO.
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Re: CR [markcincinnati] by lexusguy
Mar 01, 2007 (6:58 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Mar 01, 2007 3:16 pm)

Maybe its just me, but I still don't see the value in the RL, even at $40k. It's identical, (other than the tech package) to the '05s, which are now $30k, maybe less. Its still the runt of the LPS litter, which its sales reflect. An '06 M35 is around $40k, and its a better car than the RL in every way. An M45 is a few thousand more. So where's this great value? I just dont get it.
 
Mark, if the missus is willing to go Japanese, why not try the FX45? It's much faster than the pokey MDX (7.5 seconds from 300hp?) the trim is actually real, and it's much more of a drivers "car". Though the exterior is almost identical to the old one, the interior has been much improved.
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My wife by dhamilton
Mar 01, 2007 (8:19 pm)
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owns an FX. It's a great car. But all around, the new MDX is better IMO. Equals in driving dynamics, and fun, but the MDX is a much more comfortable ride, and a better interior to boot. Plus, better stereo, and Nav.
 
Since when can you get an M35X, with nav, XM, and upgraded stereo for 40k?

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