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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan

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#9132 of 10338 Re: LPS reliability... [rayainsw] by markcincinnati

Feb 05, 2007 (9:30 pm)

Replying to: rayainsw (Feb 05, 2007 5:13 am)
The issues with my 2005 A6 3.2 have been few -- this car has great brakes, after 2 A6 4.2's with crappy rotors, this is a pleasure.
 
The car was under tired and needed three replacement push button starters. My MMI software was replaced at month 18 but it is like an update to Windows, not unexpected that is.
 
My A6 is my daily driver. My wife drives a 2005 X3 BMW and it is her daily driver. It too came with terrible tires.
 
The little things in these cars seem to be the problems: the spring that holds the in arm rest cell phone cradle went south in my wife's X3. The spring that holds the ash tray lid closed also went south in her X3. The sensor for the passenger seat airbag, ditto -- all of these somewhat minor issues took her car out of service for at least two days at a time.
 
When mine goes in for anything it is almost always at least 24 hours -- but I am provided with a loaner, so it is not too much of an issue.
 
Reliability, durability, performace, safety, fun to drive, luxury, etc -- we all have different priorities.
 
I don't seem to have any more reliabiltiy issues than my Lexus driving friends. Difference is everything is free for me, everything costs them.
 
They have, apparently fewer issues, but they spend more and their issues seem debilitating.
 
Mine are usually annoying.
 
The cost of building the really DURABLE car must be HUGE.

#9133 of 10338 Mostly impressed. . . by markcincinnati

Feb 06, 2007 (11:20 am)

. . .am I with the pictures and words pertaining to the new and improved Cadillac CTS.
 
I read with interest the review/announcement about the CTS but noted it seems to have many of the features that the LPS crowd has had for at least two years.
 
That's the good news.
 
The bad news is, "isn't it a shame" that a 2005 vintage LPS car finally has some of its features showing up on a Cadillac.
 
I know the CTS isn't literally an LPS vehicle. But, given the ability to actually buy an American car that "qualifies," I would rather vote American.
 
The ante will almost certainly be upped with the 2008's from Germany and Japan.

#9134 of 10338 Re: Can't Decide [markcincinnati] by lexusmonkey

Feb 07, 2007 (6:25 pm)

Replying to: markcincinnati (Feb 05, 2007 9:18 pm)
It's not the price or best deal I can get, but rather what car is the best overall? Or put another way, is there one of these that you would Not get?
 
Also, I currently have a BMW 545 and would like something different as the BMW 550 is virtually the same.

#9135 of 10338 Re: Can't Decide [lexusmonkey] by lexusguy

Feb 08, 2007 (7:08 am)

Replying to: lexusmonkey (Feb 07, 2007 6:25 pm)
It's not the price or best deal I can get, but rather what car is the best overall?
 
Isn't that a question that you should answer for yourself? If you don't want another 5 series but you want something in the same vein, I think your two best choices are the M45 Sport and the A6 4.2 S-line.
 
I would not get the E because I've never really liked this generation, the E is the most likely of any LPS to have problems, and its just old compared to the 5, A6, and M. That and the RL because its a mediocre car. The only thing it has going for it is that its cheap, and its not that cheap. RL for $35K or XJR for $35K? Thats a no brainer.

#9136 of 10338 Re: Can't Decide [lexusguy] by mbbrooks

Feb 09, 2007 (1:35 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 08, 2007 7:08 am)
Now we're really getting somewhere. The E is just "old"? I guess when you're unable to elucidate anything meaningful then we are reduced to that. Kind of like the M45 is still just a "Datsun" and is plain "ugly."

#9137 of 10338 Re: Can't Decide [lexusguy] by houdini1

Feb 09, 2007 (7:49 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 08, 2007 7:08 am)
Yes, that is a no brainer. I'd take the RL any day. Please tell me where I can buy a new one for 35K.

#9138 of 10338 Re: Can't Decide [mbbrooks] by lexusguy

Feb 09, 2007 (8:44 am)

Replying to: mbbrooks (Feb 09, 2007 1:35 am)
The E class IS an old car. Its not something thats up for debate like the looks of the M, and how does a cheap Nissan bash have anything to do with anything? It's been around since '03. It has a last gen COMAND system, and it has what, two years left on the market? Most of the rest of the segment was new for '05 or '06. You can pretend that doesnt make a difference if you want.

#9139 of 10338 Re: Can't Decide [houdini1] by lexusguy

Feb 09, 2007 (8:50 am)

Replying to: houdini1 (Feb 09, 2007 7:49 am)
I didn't say a "new" RL. I definitely wouldn't buy a new one, as they are identical to the '05s, and after 3 years it will be worth what, $25k? Complete flops tend not to hold their value very well. A lightly used '06 is $35k. A 20-30k mile '04 XJR is the same money, and isn't an Accord with a gold watch.

#9140 of 10338 Re: Can't Decide [lexusguy] by houdini1

Feb 09, 2007 (9:22 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 09, 2007 8:50 am)
A 20-30k mile '04 XJR is the same money, and isn't an Accord with a gold watch
 
Yes, and that Jag might just turn out to be a Taurus without a gold watch.

#9141 of 10338 Re: Can't Decide [houdini1] by lexusguy

Feb 09, 2007 (10:06 am)

Replying to: houdini1 (Feb 09, 2007 9:22 am)
Yes, and that Jag might just turn out to be a Taurus without a gold watch.
 
Ok, you've completely lost me here. How exactly does the XJ, all new for '04 riding on its own brand new full-size aluminum RWD platform, with its Jag built AJ-V8, have anything to do with the FWD, mid-size steel Taurus that was last redesigned in 1996? If this is just a cheap shot against the Jag grille, I'm afraid you've got the wrong Jaguar. Its the XK that has the oval grille, a feature that goes back to the D-type. Morray Callum copied it for the Taurus, not the other way around. I'm sure Ian has given him hell over that.

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