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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: Is there a difference? [markcincinnati] by zgreatlife
Jan 14, 2007 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Jan 13, 2007 7:11 pm)

Wow, you're obviously a loyal Audi driver....I can understand that my "heresy" affects you. But, in my case, I'm more loyal to my buns, than my brand....
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Re: Is there a difference? [markcincinnati] by allagaroo
Jan 14, 2007 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Jan 13, 2007 7:11 pm)

You confirm that I made the right decision Friday by putting a deposit down on '07 A6 3.2. I had already made a decision to lease the M35X and was a day away from ordering it when I heard about the owner loyalty. I just happened to drive a friend out to NJ to pick up his A8 and his dealer told me or I'd be waiting for my M now. I'm excited about it but wish Audi had more power and M nav system. Everything is a compromise!
BTW ordered the 18" wheels with all seasons. Are they UHP?
I enjoy your posts and find them most informative.
Keep it up!
J
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Re: Is there a difference? [allagaroo] by willie2l
Jan 14, 2007 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: allagaroo (Jan 14, 2007 8:59 am)

Thanks for the information. If my local guy can't read, I'll try a different dealer. Good luck and enjoy your new Audi.
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Re: Is there a difference? [allagaroo] by markcincinnati
Jan 14, 2007 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: allagaroo (Jan 14, 2007 9:16 am)

The tires are Grand Touring HP.
 
You will be underwhelmed by them.
 
I replaced mine with UHP Pirelli PZero Nero M+S and inflated the front to 39 the rear to 36.
 
Nice upgrade.
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Re: Is there a difference? [zgreatlife] by acurat
Jan 14, 2007 (9:23 pm)
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Replying to: zgreatlife (Jan 13, 2007 5:00 pm)

Before you cut a fat check for a Lexus, I'd recommend you try the Acura RL. Smooth and serene yet not floaty, with a seriously powerful V6. Super-handling all wheel drive is incredibly secure; this car goes where you point it. Real-time NavTraffic is a huge advantage in any major metro area. The interior is beautiful and well-designed, the cabin is quiet, the sound system rocks. Acura has done an incredible integration of the technology. Best of all, you won't see yourself coming and going.
 
If you are focused on bang for the buck, no one can touch this car. There are no options. None. Every feature is standard--an exemplar for the nickel-and-diming competition. (Are you listening, Toyota and BMW?)
 
Check out the review at cnet.com for more.
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Re: Is there a difference? [acurat] by zgreatlife
Jan 15, 2007 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: acurat (Jan 14, 2007 9:23 pm)

Thanks, I will look at the Acura. My wife used to have a TL and loved it. So far I feel that the Volvo S80 has the closest feel to my Audi A6. Actually, I was impressed with the Volvo feel. Feels much "tighter" than older models used to.
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Re: Is there a difference? [acurat] by lexusguy
Jan 15, 2007 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: acurat (Jan 14, 2007 9:23 pm)

If you are focused on bang for the buck, no one can touch this car. There are no options. None.
 
Well, except for the Technology package. Thats an option. And it would be nice if there were some options, say a seat upgrade, for example. An '05 or '06 for $32-35K is a pretty good deal. As a new car... eh. I'd rather have the GS.
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Re: Is there a difference? [markcincinnati] by allagaroo
Jan 15, 2007 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Jan 14, 2007 3:02 pm)

I don't understand why mediocre OEM tires like the Goodyear RS=4's or the Michelin MXM4's are so expensive. I was looking to replace the RS-4's that come with the M with Bridgestone Potenza 960's which seen to be rated #1 in everything according to Tire Rack for less money than the others. I wonder if tire dealers will swap when the tires are brand new?
J
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Re: Is there a difference? [allagaroo] by lexusguy
Jan 15, 2007 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: allagaroo (Jan 15, 2007 10:25 am)

I don't understand why mediocre OEM tires like the Goodyear RS=4's or the Michelin MXM4's are so expensive.
 
Very good question. The MXM4s aren't really any cheaper than either the Pilot Exalto or Pilot Sport M+S, which are both way better tires.
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Re: Is there a difference? [lexusguy] by tamparl
Jan 15, 2007 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 12:46 pm)

I generally am a fan of Michelins. I have done very well with wear and durability of them. In some applications, I have found them louder on some road surfaces, as with my 06 RL. I have considered replacing them (stock rims), but there are so few options unless I change the rims (which I do not expect to do). I think the MXM4s are OK, but I suspect there is a quieter tire out there, if I can find them in the RLs stock size. My TL has the MXM4s also, but they lower profile, and still better than the BS EL42 Turanzas I have experienced on some loaner TLs. Yet I find the RL quieter than most of the competitors I drove (subject to my local road conditions...crap). And still the RL felt responsive more than some of the cushier rides. For me it was the right balance.
 
I think if you can get an new RL under 45K it is an amazing vehicle. Head north of 45K and I think there are serious alternatives which appeal to us each differently. We all have attributes that appeal to us in different combinations...price, ride, performace, engine, drivetrain, features, reputation, etc, etc. It can be tiresome, especially with the availability of information and opinions we have today. It can be helpful, but it can also be distracting us from what pleases us personally. Listen to opinions in your decision process, but decide based on what appeals to YOU.
 
I enjoy the process, and cannot get near shiny metal things without drooling. A whiff of the new car smell and my knees buckle. BUT, always it comes down to MY dollar and deciding upon what MY dollar can get for what appeals to ME.
 
Somewhere I saw a thread about what people name their cars... I simply replied "MINE"!
 
I respect all the rides mentioned throughout this thread. i respect what each has proclaimed as best (for them), but each time I look at, drive one or campare to what I got in my RL, I know I made the right choice.

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