Luxury Performance Sedans

Replying to: markcincinnati (Jan 06, 2007 10:28 am)

If the Audi lease came down $200 per month I would seriously consider it but I doubt if it will. My salesman retired last month and i wanted to order a fully equipped '07 A6 3.2. from him before he left. he knew I had a problem with the increased cost and was considering M35 so he worked at $600 over invoice which translated to $797/month. All leases are 36 months. I was paying $568 for my '03. I think I can get the M35X for mid 600's and GS350AWD for high 600's. The reports on the M's nav system and back up camera are very positive. I'm not sure how the sound systems compare. If the Audi had kept the twin turbo at 300HP I would have paid the increase. I love the acceleration of the GS350 but don't know if I can live with the steering and small trunk. Need to make a decision soon!!!!!!!!!!

Replies to this message:
• domenickamarc (Jan 07, 2007 9:21 am)
  • allagaroo (Jan 12, 2007 3:41 pm)
    • willie2l (Jan 13, 2007 9:30 am) and 5 more...

Replying to: allagaroo (Jan 07, 2007 9:05 am)

Replies to this message:
• allagaroo (Jan 12, 2007 3:41 pm)
  • willie2l (Jan 13, 2007 9:30 am)
    • allagaroo (Jan 14, 2007 8:59 am) and 4 more...

Replying to: markcincinnati (Jan 07, 2007 6:53 am)

Replies to this message:
• markcincinnati (Jan 07, 2007 1:14 pm)
  • lexusguy (Jan 07, 2007 3:17 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 07, 2007 10:06 am)

Replies to this message:
• lexusguy (Jan 07, 2007 3:17 pm)

Replying to: markcincinnati (Jan 07, 2007 1:14 pm)

Replies to this message:
• bruceomega (Jan 10, 2007 12:07 pm)
  • rayainsw (Jan 10, 2007 1:07 pm)

You know, this whole breathed on I6 engine thing has got me to wondering. Would it be possible to transplant one of the new mills from the 335i/535i into a late E39 5-Series? Geez, what I wouldn't give to have my old 2002 530i with that mill stuffed under the hood.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

Replies to this message:
• lexusguy (Jan 10, 2007 7:22 am)
  • shipo (Jan 10, 2007 8:15 am)
    • lexusguy (Jan 10, 2007 6:22 pm) and 5 more...

Replying to: shipo (Jan 10, 2007 6:50 am)

Replies to this message:
• shipo (Jan 10, 2007 8:15 am)
  • lexusguy (Jan 10, 2007 6:22 pm)
    • shipo (Jan 10, 2007 7:22 pm) and 4 more...

Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 10, 2007 7:22 am)

Trust me, it's WAY more complicated than a simple blower installation. Consider the following points:
 
1) The engine in the 2002 E39 was the previous style (and in fact many years old in its life cycle) aluminum block with the cast iron sleeves. Decent for its purpose, but hardly as robust as the new aluminum core/magnesium shell composite block that debuted with the introduction of the E90.
2) Factory built turbocharged engines are typically reinforced (over that of the normally aspirated siblings) with the following goodies:
 - 2a) Higher strength crank, rods and pistons
 - 2b) Rod based oil squirters to cool the piston domes
 - 2c) Considerably greater cooling capabilities such as:
 - - 2cA) Larger radiator and the necessary plumbing
 - - 2cB) Additional and/or larger oil coolers and the necessary plumbing
 - - 2cC) Large size intercooler(s) and the necessary plumbing
 - - 2cD) Extra coolant plumbing to the bearings on the turbine houseing to keep them cool, especially at shutdown
 - 2d) Significant software remapping
 - 2e) Revised/more robust valve train
 - 2f) Higher flow intake and exhaust manifolds (2 in the case of the 335i)
 
Did BMW do all of the above to the 335i engine? Probably. Would I trust the (bored out to within an inch of its life) 3.0 liter mill from an E39 to withstand the rigors of a 300 (320-340 by all accounts) HP turbocharging application? Not a chance. While the old 3.0 liter mill was certainly a good and robust engine for its intended output, there is only one word to describe what would happen to that engine when an intake charge 150% of design spec was fed into it. KABOOM!
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

Replies to this message:
• lexusguy (Jan 10, 2007 6:22 pm)
  • shipo (Jan 10, 2007 7:22 pm)
    • uglybear (Jan 10, 2007 8:50 pm) and 3 more...

Replying to: rayainsw (Jan 10, 2007 6:16 am)

Replies to this message:
• rayainsw (Jan 10, 2007 1:07 pm)