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#9001 of 9978 Re: MB Grows and grows and grows [tayl0rd] by markcincinnati Jan 04, 2007 (7:50 am)
Replying to: tayl0rd (Jan 04, 2007 6:25 am) I agree. The M's -- at the time when it was NEW -- used to be so much nicer than the G's (which was really kinda cheapo looking), now, not so much.   And the beat goes on.
#9002 of 9978 Re: MB Grows and grows and grows [tayl0rd] by lexusguy Jan 04, 2007 (9:54 am)
Replying to: tayl0rd (Jan 04, 2007 6:25 am) 'd say the new G's interior is actually better than the M's.   You may be right about that. The M has almost all of its secondary controls on the top panel, which isn't really ideal. The G has just the NAV buttons on the little panel below the NAV screen, with the audio and climate controls where they should be. The new VW-ish gauges are also much better than the old orange ones. I think the G and 3 series currently have the best in class interiors, while the M's is somewhere in the middle.
#9003 of 9978 Re: MB Grows and grows and grows [lexusguy] by laurasdada Jan 04, 2007 (10:27 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 03, 2007 10:24 pm) I'll respectfully disagree re: G vs TL interiors. One of the reasons I chose the '05 TL (non-nav. Yes, it is just slightly less graceful sans the nav-screen. Plain, but functional) over the '05 G was the interior. I found the TL to be of higher quality materials and more ergonomically and stylistically pleasing. I do wish the TL had a couple of the Gs interior features, notably the adjustable steering wheel/instrument pod and moreso the driver's seat ingress/egress feature (my Chrysler 300M had that!). The Gs seat may have been a bit better padded, too, but not enough to sway me. I'm not a fan of the TL "plood," hence my interior choice included the faux carbon fiber (with real aluminum).   Exterior too. I find the TL to be a very handsome, agressive design. Especially for a Honda!!!   New G, big improvement. If the '08 CTS is anything like the '07 SRX, big improvement (I love nicely styled analog clocks!). And yes, Audi and Lexus interiors can be things of beauty. But I don't think the TL interior is wildly outclassed by any of 'em. Especially the BMW 3. Quality materials but a bit of a depressing presentation.   YMMV and does... Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jan 04, 2007 1:32 pm) markcincinnati (Jan 05, 2007 5:21 am) lexusguy (Jan 05, 2007 9:12 am) laurasdada (Jan 05, 2007 10:31 am)
#9004 of 9978 A5 by dhamilton Jan 04, 2007 (12:04 pm)
Well here it is and it sounds yummy.http://www.autospies.com/news/Official-Audi-A5-to-Be-Unveiled-in-Geneva-11- 232
#9005 of 9978 well by dhamilton Jan 04, 2007 (12:08 pm)
I suck at posting links, sorry. It says that the A5 will be introduced at the Geneva show. The suspension/setup will have selections for understeer, or oversteer. I guess done electronically, via a switch?   Anyway, cool car. Can't wait to read about. Anyone else excited, Mark?
#9006 of 9978 Re: MB Grows and grows and grows [laurasdada] by lexusguy Jan 04, 2007 (1:32 pm)
Replying to: laurasdada (Jan 04, 2007 10:27 am) Especially the BMW 3. Quality materials but a bit of a depressing presentation.   I only like the 3 series in tan leather with the natural wood finish. I'm not a fan of the black\black\black combo of many recent BMWs, its like a cave.
#9007 of 9978 Re: MB Grows and grows and grows [tayl0rd] by merc1 Jan 04, 2007 (9:20 pm)
Replying to: tayl0rd (Jan 04, 2007 6:25 am) I'd say the new G's interior is actually better than the M's.   It definitely is from a styling standpoint, I haven't been in the new G to see if the materials are. They got rid of the big ATM buttons for one thing.   M Replies to this message: ocim (Jan 13, 2007 7:20 am)
#9008 of 9978 Re: MB Grows and grows and grows [laurasdada] by markcincinnati Jan 05, 2007 (5:21 am)
Replying to: laurasdada (Jan 04, 2007 10:27 am) I may be wrong, but I think the praise for the G interior is for the new, refreshed for '07 iteration.   I would agree, the '05 G wasn't exactly in the near LPS league. And, were it not for the torque steer (my wife and I had tested a fully optioned manual transmission version of the Acura -- on a rainy day) well the Acura probably would have been a contender, even without AWD.   The thing had torque steer second only to an old Saab Aero we tested -- the steering wheel simply made "suggestions" to the front end. Sometimes it took the suggestion, on a rain slicked road, not so much. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jan 05, 2007 9:12 am) laurasdada (Jan 05, 2007 10:31 am)
#9009 of 9978 A5 by markcincinnati Jan 05, 2007 (5:26 am)
Here's the A5 link: Klik Here for A5 Spy Replies to this message: dhamilton (Jan 05, 2007 7:24 am)
#9010 of 9978 Re: MB Grows and grows and grows [merc1] by domenickamarc Jan 05, 2007 (6:46 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Jan 03, 2007 9:12 pm) "That Audi number is somewhat of a letdown, such a car should sell much better than that."   Comparos, such as that in Car and Driver this month, might, gradually shift place of A6 in minds of LPS buyers. MB E63 AMG and Audi S6 rated well ahead of M5. S6 summed up as "a fast and sexy sweetheart priced to near irresistibility." Main negative: underpowered. Mark, can you put some pressure on Audi to get us further up the ladder in the HP/torque race? Replies to this message: merc1 (Jan 05, 2007 7:36 am) markcincinnati (Jan 05, 2007 1:23 pm)

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