Luxury Performance Sedans

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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan

#8831 of 10338 Audi is "Car Company of the Year" by domenickamarc

Dec 05, 2006 (11:45 pm)

Nov 16, 2006
 
AUDI AG has been presented with one of the automotive world’s most important and coveted Awards. The decisive factor for the Autocar jury was the range of products that Audi has launched in recent years. When compared to models from premium competitors such as BMW and Mercedes, the magazine concluded that Audi products: "offered equal value, were arguably better built, and often technologically more interesting. Our exhaustive tests show its models now stand with the best“.

#8832 of 10338 Re: . [sidv] by reality2

Dec 06, 2006 (4:19 pm)

Replying to: sidv (Dec 02, 2006 6:59 am)
You are somewhat off base here. Sounds more like bias opinion for SAAB rather than actual discussion about Audi. You need to check some of the latest data that proves you wrong on the reliability front with CR recommending the A4 as "highly recommended" to start. There is no way a SAAB can touch an Audi A4 in terms of build quality, design, and just plain badge snobbery. It is like comparing apples and oranges. Audi is Tier 1 and SAAB is distinctly Tier 3 at most. Your anaylsis is somewhat off if compared to general reviews and other data. So, it is great that you enjoy SAAB, but save the anti-Audi stuff. It is so passe already!

#8833 of 10338 Cars being kept longer by sfcharlie

Dec 06, 2006 (9:55 pm)

The median and mean age of automobiles has steadily increased since 1969. In 2005 the overall median age for automobiles was 8.9 years, a significant increase over 1990 when the median age of vehicles in operation in the US was 6.5 years and 1969 when the mean age for automobiles was 5.1 years. Of all body styles, pick-up trucks had the highest mean age (9.4 years), followed by cars with a mean age of 8.4 years and van with a mean age of 7.0 years. As SUVs are part of a relatively new consumer trend originating mostly in the 1990s, SUVs had the lowest mean age of any body style in the US (6.1 years). The mean age has increased continuously for all body styles from 1969 to 2005

#8834 of 10338 Re: Cars being kept longer [sfcharlie] by acurat

Dec 07, 2006 (12:14 am)

Replying to: sfcharlie (Dec 06, 2006 9:55 pm)
Interesting. My treasured 1969 AMX was a piece of junk after 8 years, replaced by a 1977 Celica, which became a piece of junk after 4 years. My first and last Toyota.
 
What per-gallon gas price will it require for all those recently-minted SUVs and monster pickups to go to the crusher? (Oh Happy Day, Oh Happy Dayyyy...)
 
Bring it on! What I wouldn't give for daily L.A. traffic reports minus the obligatory 5:30 am SUV rollover blocking multiple lanes...somehow it's never a LPS in the midst of the chaos.

#8835 of 10338 Re: Cars being kept longer [acurat] by qbrozen

Dec 07, 2006 (7:17 am)

Replying to: acurat (Dec 07, 2006 12:14 am)
Wow! That's a heckuva grudge you're carrying there. Good thing not everyone judges a manufacturer based on a car from the '70s or there'd be ALOT of companies out of business!

#8836 of 10338 Re: Cars being kept longer [qbrozen] by lexusguy

Dec 07, 2006 (7:31 am)

Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 07, 2006 7:17 am)
The entire US auto industry would be gone, as would all of the British brands, Korean brands, possibly Toyota and Nissan, and VW\Audi. Based on 1970s quality, Honda, Mercedes, Porsche and Volvo would probably be the only brands left.

#8837 of 10338 Still time before Christma by sfcharlie

Dec 07, 2006 (10:47 am)

In Australia the proportion of women buying traditional large luxury "saloons" as well as top-end luxury roadsters is on the way up, but even today only 19 per cent of E-Class customers are women compared to 17 per cent in 1994.
 
If figures are similar in the U.S. and any of the men of this forum have been confused about a holiday gift for wife or girlfriend, not to late to get her an E-Class and close the gender-gap at the same time.

#8838 of 10338 Car Wars by sfcharlie

Dec 07, 2006 (3:56 pm)

With rumors of an impending takeover (controlling shares and Board seats) of VW by Porsche, several stories emphasize VW's chance to stop the Toyota juggernaut (e.g., Business Week, NY Times) and convey the sense of people rooting for or against VW or Toyota. Interesting how much emotion cars evoke -- not that one could detect that in our controlled environment here

#8839 of 10338 Re: Car Wars [sfcharlie] by lexusguy

Dec 07, 2006 (3:58 pm)

Replying to: sfcharlie (Dec 07, 2006 3:56 pm)
With rumors of an impending takeover (controlling shares and Board seats) of VW by Porsche, several stories emphasize VW's chance to stop the Toyota juggernaut
 
If anybody can stop Toyota, its not going to be WV AG, at least not in this country. They are a bit player here.

#8840 of 10338 Re: Car Wars [lexusguy] by sfcharlie

Dec 07, 2006 (4:49 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Dec 07, 2006 3:58 pm)
If anybody can stop Toyota, its not going to be WV AG, at least not in this country. They are a bit player here.
 
OK ... that's one unemotional bet on Toyota? And a rebuttal to the automotive economists quoted in these articles.
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