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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: . [rockylee] by shipo
Nov 28, 2006 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 28, 2006 7:41 am)

Hmmm, still trolling I see.
 
Don't you ever get tired of being shouted down so often?
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Re: . [shipo] by qbrozen
Nov 28, 2006 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 28, 2006 7:56 am)

to be fair, i wouldn't really call rocky a troll.
 
maybe that's just my definition, but I believe a troll to be someone who drops a bomb and leaves shortly thereafter. Although rocky may have a different viewpoint than alot of folks, at least he has the tenacity to stick around and defend that viewpoint.
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Re: . [cstiles] by fonefixer
Nov 28, 2006 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: cstiles (Nov 27, 2006 5:17 pm)

I drove an Audi A6 2.7T for 6 years/100,000 miles and will say the car was "tired" at the end of my ownership.The turbos needed replacing, the valve covers were leaking, etc.
 
Maybe all LPS cars, and all cars in general are "tired" and worn out by 100,000 miles? Or was it just my Audi?
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Re: . [fonefixer] by lexusguy
Nov 28, 2006 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: fonefixer (Nov 28, 2006 8:11 am)

Maybe all LPS cars, and all cars in general are "tired" and worn out by 100,000 miles? Or was it just my Audi?
 
I don't think German luxury cars are built to last longer than 100K miles without major life support. Any Legend, Q, or LS though should handle 100K miles in its sleep. Unfortunately Acuras don't seem to be built nearly as well as they used to be. Infinitis I'm not sure about, but the G and M shouldn't have any problems well past 100K miles. I'm just not sure they can do 300K like Q45s of old. My LS400 was still going strong at 150K miles. I got tired of it long before it got "tired" of life.
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Re: . [shipo] by rockylee
Nov 28, 2006 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 28, 2006 7:56 am)

shipo,
 
I don't troll I have a different viewpoint than alot of other people. If I trolled I would never come back.
 
I just wanted some different opinions is all and wasn't trying to start a arguement....
 
Rocky
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Re: . [qbrozen] by rockylee
Nov 28, 2006 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 28, 2006 8:03 am)

qbrozen,
 
Thank-you pal. I don't drop bombs without defending my view points. I know I pour gas on myself sometimes and should keep my mouth shut. I brought up the S80 vs. A8 & LS to y'all....I wondered if y'all think I'm dumb/wrong for thinking the S80 would/could be cross shopped by either of them. If I'm wrong, hey I'm wrong. I think very highly of the new S80 V8 AWD and even though it costs $30k less I think the new platform make it a cheaper alternative to the A8 and LS, without sacrificing quality and driving experience. I'm trying to understand/learn what buyers in this segment think.
 
Just my $0.02
 
thanx,
 
Rocky
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Re: . [rockylee] by qbrozen
Nov 28, 2006 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 28, 2006 8:45 am)

while I'm not a buyer in this segment, I don't think the S80 would be cross-shopped to those cars. I believe folks looking to spend $80k will spend $80k.
 
Plus, maybe I'm wrong here, but I believe the S80 is smaller inside than the others. At least a tighter backseat. I'm not sure of the actual specs of the '07 model, however.
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Re: . [qbrozen] by rockylee
Nov 28, 2006 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 28, 2006 8:53 am)

Okay, fair enough. I just wanted some different opinions is all. I also agree the S80 is a lil' smaller over all. It's about the same size as a STS-DTS ? The A8 is the size of the S-Class. Isn't the LS about the same size as the S80 ?
 
Rocky
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Re: . [lexusguy] by fonefixer
Nov 28, 2006 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 28, 2006 8:24 am)

J. D. Power or somebody should take a poll of 100,000 mile owners of all vehicles and ask if they would buy that vehicle again based on reliability.
 
I'm not bashing the venerable Audi brand, it is just that after 6 +years of LPS ownership, I would have to agree that the Audi appears to be an ideal lease vehicle, but certainly not a model that would be suitable for long term ownership.
 
Anybody out there that has driven an individual Audi for 100,000 relatively care-free miles?
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Re: . [rockylee] by lexusguy
Nov 28, 2006 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 28, 2006 8:45 am)

I brought up the S80 vs. A8 & LS to y'all....I wondered if y'all think I'm dumb/wrong for thinking the S80 would/could be cross shopped by either of them.
 
The S80 is firmly in the mid-lux class, its competition is the cars on this board. From Lexus and Audi, that would be the GS and A6. The A8 and LS are in the 200" full-size class, the S80 isnt that big.

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