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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: Audi sales [kgary] by reality2
Oct 30, 2006 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: kgary (Oct 29, 2006 2:46 am)

Yes, the solar sunroof (or solar cells located in the sunroof) is a great option that Audi has. I have it on my two Audis here in California and it makes a nice difference in the summer especially. I am not sure anyone else offers this option. I order it specifically when I get a new Audi because I like the "coolness" of the feature.
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Re: Audi sales [anthonyp] by reality2
Oct 30, 2006 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Oct 28, 2006 3:39 pm)

Same in LA. Penske is openning a new Audi dealersip, a new Audi Forum is planned for West Los Angeles, and majority of Audi dealerships now have the new hanger look with more on the way including two mega-store Audi dealerships to be built in Pasadena and the San Fernando Valley similar to the one just openned in London with the airport termninal two-story look (includes Santa Monica). Look forward to all the toys coming.
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Partial October Sales Figures by drtravel
Nov 02, 2006 (1:51 pm)
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Acura RL - 987
Audi A6 - 844
BMW 5-Series - 4,398
Infiniti M - 1,986
Lexus GS - 1,997
 
Don't know MB or Caddy
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Re: Partial October Sales Figures [drtravel] by lexusguy
Nov 02, 2006 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 02, 2006 1:51 pm)

Audi A6 - 844
 
Ouch! What happened to Audi this last month? I thought they were done losing to the RL.
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Re: Partial October Sales Figures [lexusguy] by domenickamarc
Nov 02, 2006 (8:36 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 02, 2006 2:03 pm)

Audi A6 Year-to-date sales = 14,149 (sold 14,682 in 2005)
Acura RL Year-to-date sales = 10,068 (down 33% from 2005)
 
A6 appears to be done losing to the RL.
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Re: Partial October Sales Figures [drtravel] by merc1
Nov 02, 2006 (9:35 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 02, 2006 1:51 pm)

Don't know MB or Caddy
 
E-Class - 4,895
STS - (couldn't find this one yet)
S-Type - 314
 
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Re: Partial October Sales Figures [drtravel] by merc1
Nov 02, 2006 (10:18 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 02, 2006 1:51 pm)

Found it, the STS sold 1,573 for October 2006, a 10 percent drop from Oct 2005.
 
Source
 
A little off topic, but GM really does give a lot of information on their corporate site. I didn't know the Corvette sold as well as it does, they're on track to sell like 36K of them this year! Not sure what is going on with Saab, but their sales were up 98 percent(!) for Oct 06' compared to Oct 05'. It looks there are no Oldsmobiles anywhere in a America at this point, they're finally dead! The old-school Caddy DTS is still Cadillac's best selling model.
 
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Re: Partial October Sales Figures [merc1] by lexusguy
Nov 03, 2006 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 02, 2006 10:18 pm)

Not sure what is going on with Saab, but their sales were up 98 percent(!) for Oct 06' compared to Oct 05'.
 
Must be that new 2.8L turbo V6 for the 9-3. I can't imagine that the facelift they gave to the geriatric 9-5 is fooling anybody, at least not the kind of people who buy Saabs. The 9-2X was a dud, and if the 9-7X had any initial success, the party must surely be over by now.
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Re: Since we moved from prices to performance... [cstiles] by mariner7
Nov 03, 2006 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: cstiles (Oct 29, 2006 2:11 pm)

The RL and Legend are identical worldwide, with the same SH-AWD and V6 drivetrain. Nissan has chosen to differentiate, and are winning, while Honda is offering the same car with similar slow results.
 
Because of SH-AWD weight, RL is already sluggish with the big 3.5 engine. A smaller engine for Japan wouldn't do, plus Honda's engines tend to be low on torque. Lack of torque and excess weight is not good combination. Those are two of the problems RL has.
 
What Audi does is offer FWD/AWD on all its cars. I think A6's in USA are all AWD, but can be FWD in other countries. Acura might consider doing the same thing.
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Re: Since we moved from prices to performance... [mariner7] by lexusguy
Nov 03, 2006 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: mariner7 (Nov 03, 2006 11:33 am)

What Audi does is offer FWD/AWD on all its cars. I think A6's in USA are all AWD, but can be FWD in other countries. Acura might consider doing the same thing.
 
Making FWD optional might save 200lbs or so and improve acceleration a bit, depending on the available grip. It also will make torque steer and massive understeer a big problem. I don't think the positives outweigh the negatives.

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