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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: Since we moved from prices to performance... [cstiles] by lexusguy
Oct 30, 2006 (3:25 am)
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Replying to: cstiles (Oct 30, 2006 1:55 am)

Nissan has comparatively more V6 "muscle" cars than Honda...that much was clear. Somewhere in this mix is a Q45 replacement, but Nissan didn't talk about it. (They sure could have, since Toyota spent much time showcasing the LS.)
 
That does make sense, Nissan's signature engine is a V6 and they've had a 3.5L 250hp+ version of it since 2002. The old Legend\RL 3.5L dates back much further than that, but it never had much power considering its size. Honda has only just recently pushed into the 280hp+ level with their V6s, other than in the NSX of course.
 
I'm not really surprised there was no information about the next Q. The Japanese auto companies are very good at keeping secrets, I get the feeling that "leaked" info gets out because they've let it out on purpose. The redesigned Lexus SC and the new JX are due around the same time, but you'll notice there's pretty much zero info on them as well.
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Re: Since we moved from prices to performance... [cstiles] by lexusguy
Oct 30, 2006 (3:36 am)
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Replying to: cstiles (Oct 30, 2006 2:04 am)

Isuzu wasn't discussed at all. To be honest, I saw very few Isuzu's in Japan, other than commercial trucks. Aren't they a partner with Subaru/Fuji Industries? There were lots of Subarus in Japan, with more focus on high performance and less on LL Bean. They seem to have carved out a "Japanese Audi" niche with lots of cool wagons.
 
Some sort of cooperation may have been happening when Isuzu and Subaru were both under the GM umbrella. They never shared any platforms or engines that I know of. The only thing Isuzu has left in the US market is a rebadge of the Colorado\Canyon.
 
Its annoying that Subaru still refuses to bring most of their performance models to the US market. Our Legacy "Spec.B" is a very watered down version of what they have there, same thing with the WRX STi. The new Evo IX FQ360 is capable of chasing a 911 Turbo on a track, but we get none of the hot versions of that car as well.
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Re: Audi sales [kgary] by reality2
Oct 30, 2006 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: kgary (Oct 29, 2006 2:46 am)

Yes, the solar sunroof (or solar cells located in the sunroof) is a great option that Audi has. I have it on my two Audis here in California and it makes a nice difference in the summer especially. I am not sure anyone else offers this option. I order it specifically when I get a new Audi because I like the "coolness" of the feature.
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Re: Audi sales [anthonyp] by reality2
Oct 30, 2006 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Oct 28, 2006 3:39 pm)

Same in LA. Penske is openning a new Audi dealersip, a new Audi Forum is planned for West Los Angeles, and majority of Audi dealerships now have the new hanger look with more on the way including two mega-store Audi dealerships to be built in Pasadena and the San Fernando Valley similar to the one just openned in London with the airport termninal two-story look (includes Santa Monica). Look forward to all the toys coming.
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Partial October Sales Figures by drtravel
Nov 02, 2006 (1:51 pm)
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Acura RL - 987
Audi A6 - 844
BMW 5-Series - 4,398
Infiniti M - 1,986
Lexus GS - 1,997
 
Don't know MB or Caddy
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Re: Partial October Sales Figures [drtravel] by lexusguy
Nov 02, 2006 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 02, 2006 1:51 pm)

Audi A6 - 844
 
Ouch! What happened to Audi this last month? I thought they were done losing to the RL.
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Re: Partial October Sales Figures [lexusguy] by domenickamarc
Nov 02, 2006 (8:36 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 02, 2006 2:03 pm)

Audi A6 Year-to-date sales = 14,149 (sold 14,682 in 2005)
Acura RL Year-to-date sales = 10,068 (down 33% from 2005)
 
A6 appears to be done losing to the RL.
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Re: Partial October Sales Figures [drtravel] by merc1
Nov 02, 2006 (9:35 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 02, 2006 1:51 pm)

Don't know MB or Caddy
 
E-Class - 4,895
STS - (couldn't find this one yet)
S-Type - 314
 
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Re: Partial October Sales Figures [drtravel] by merc1
Nov 02, 2006 (10:18 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 02, 2006 1:51 pm)

Found it, the STS sold 1,573 for October 2006, a 10 percent drop from Oct 2005.
 
Source
 
A little off topic, but GM really does give a lot of information on their corporate site. I didn't know the Corvette sold as well as it does, they're on track to sell like 36K of them this year! Not sure what is going on with Saab, but their sales were up 98 percent(!) for Oct 06' compared to Oct 05'. It looks there are no Oldsmobiles anywhere in a America at this point, they're finally dead! The old-school Caddy DTS is still Cadillac's best selling model.
 
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Re: Partial October Sales Figures [merc1] by lexusguy
Nov 03, 2006 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 02, 2006 10:18 pm)

Not sure what is going on with Saab, but their sales were up 98 percent(!) for Oct 06' compared to Oct 05'.
 
Must be that new 2.8L turbo V6 for the 9-3. I can't imagine that the facelift they gave to the geriatric 9-5 is fooling anybody, at least not the kind of people who buy Saabs. The 9-2X was a dud, and if the 9-7X had any initial success, the party must surely be over by now.

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