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#8628 of 10338 Re: Since we moved from prices to performance... [lexusguy] by sfcharlie

Oct 25, 2006 (4:03 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 22, 2006 10:35 pm)
"The GS and M still get hammered by the 5 and E though."
 
Infiniti car sales in the U.S. were down 12.4% through Sept, compared to first nine months of 2005. The only model with sales higher in 2006 is the M. However, third quarter (July+August+September) 2006 sales of the M ( 2,293+ 2120+1933=6346) were down 22% from third quarter 2005 ( 2,755+2623+2351=7729).
 
Lexus passenger car sales in the U.S. were up 22.2% compared to the first nine months of 2005 (131,595 versus 107,246). Most of the increase, however, was the IS 250/350: (41,666 versus 4,261) an increase of 873.6%. GS 350 was down to 18,219 from 20,332 (a decrease of 10.8%). And the GS 430/450h was also down to 3,026 from 4,430 (a decrease of 32%).
 
At the end of September, Mercedes-Benz USA reported its highest September on record with sales of 19,873 new vehicles, an increase of 13.2 percent over last September. This brought MBUSA's year-to-date sales to 177,001, a 13.3 percent increase over the same period in 2005. Sales volume September was led by the C-Class with 4,238 units and the E-Class with 4,112 units. Nonetheless, this represented a 9.5% decrease (September to September comparison) for the E-class, which has been down 6.3 compared to first nine months of 2005. And, during the third quarter of 2006, the E-Class sales have been down 16.7% as compared with third quarter 2005 (15,061 versus 12,546).
 
People appear to be buying fewer LPS category cars as the year unfolds.

#8629 of 10338 Re: Since we moved from prices to performance... [sfcharlie] by cdnpinhead

Oct 25, 2006 (4:53 pm)

Replying to: sfcharlie (Oct 25, 2006 4:03 pm)
Interesting stuff.
 
I analyze data for a living. It's nice to not have to gather & parse it myself.
 
It appears that the great unwashed care not a whit for the abysmal Mercedes electric/electronic reliability stories. Or, maybe they've gotten better.
 
Thanks

#8630 of 10338 Even BMW 5-Series by sfcharlie

Oct 25, 2006 (5:31 pm)

Replying to: cdnpinhead (Oct 25, 2006 4:53 pm)
While 5-series sales were up for the first three-quarters from 36,261 in 2005 to 38,944 in 2006, nonetheless in the recent third quarter, even 5-Series sales were down 14% to 11,109 from 12,877 in the third quarter of 2005.

#8631 of 10338 Re: Since we moved from prices to performance... [sfcharlie] by lexusguy

Oct 25, 2006 (9:45 pm)

Replying to: sfcharlie (Oct 25, 2006 4:03 pm)
Infiniti car sales in the U.S. were down 12.4% through Sept, compared to first nine months of 2005. The only model with sales higher in 2006 is the M. However, third quarter (July+August+September) 2006 sales of the M ( 2,293+ 2120+1933=6346) were down 22% from third quarter 2005 ( 2,755+2623+2351=7729).
 
Just about all of Infiniti's sales come from G, M, FX. The '06 G is EOL, and the FX is starting to showing its age. Infiniti should get a healthy boost for the '07 G35. The additional showroom traffic may also boost M sales.
 
The IS is doing pretty well, it will be interesting to see if it can maintain these kinds of sales numbers and avoid the curse that has killed all of Lexus' previous performance cars after a few years on the market. It looks like the GS may be falling into the same trap for the 3rd time.

#8632 of 10338 New engines in 5 Series by erickpl

Oct 26, 2006 (6:55 am)

How do you think the twinturbo of the 335i will fare in the 535i? In talking to my dealer, he was mentioning Spring for this option. I dunno how true that is, but the idea of a 535i appeals to me. It has more oomph than the 530, but without having to jump up in price to the 550.
 
-Paul

#8633 of 10338 Re: New engines in 5 Series [erickpl] by shipo

Oct 26, 2006 (7:19 am)

Replying to: erickpl (Oct 26, 2006 6:55 am)
I absolutely think that a "lightly lifted" (from a sheet metal perspective) 535i 6-Speed Manual with the SP will be too good to pass up. I also suspect that others are thinking the same thing which, to me at least, explains the recent drop off in E60 sales. After all, why buy/lease a very competent 2007 530i now when as soon as next spring an ultra competent 535i can be had?
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

#8634 of 10338 Audi sales by sfcharlie

Oct 28, 2006 (9:02 am)

Audi of America sold 8,004 vehicles in September, a 1.9 percent increase compared to the same period a year ago. Audi sales are up 4.9 percent for the year.
 
Audi was one of the luxury brands to improve its sales during the third quarter totaling 22,124 vehicles sold, one of the strongest quarters in the brand's U.S. history, with new markets on the rise in metropolitan markets such as Miami, Los Angeles, Atlanta, and Dallas, where Audi hadn't sold much before. The brand appears to be, in general, slowly opening new markets outside the snowbelt, where most of its sales have traditionally been made.
 
The A6 sold the same number (13,000) so far this year as it did in 2005, but, as with the other LPS cars, was down 18% in the third quarter, compared to third quarter 2005.

#8635 of 10338 Re: Audi sales [sfcharlie] by cdnpinhead

Oct 28, 2006 (2:00 pm)

Replying to: sfcharlie (Oct 28, 2006 9:02 am)
Thanks for the update.
 
The bigger question in my mind is how you like your Audi, given the angst from your previous choice.

#8636 of 10338 Re: Audi sales [sfcharlie] by anthonyp

Oct 28, 2006 (4:39 pm)

Replying to: sfcharlie (Oct 28, 2006 9:02 am)
I too would like to hear how things are going on...The Audi has a huge following in Miami , and has so for a fairly long time, as you personally see old and new all over the place....Here in Charleston S.C the brand is catching on, but it take time for a new dealership to get some traction...Tony

#8637 of 10338 Re: Audi sales [anthonyp] by james27

Oct 28, 2006 (5:28 pm)

Replying to: anthonyp (Oct 28, 2006 4:39 pm)
Audi (used to be?) one of the few companies that offered a warm-weather option package. It was neat in that it included laminated, heat reflecting side glass and front and back windshields, the (fairly common) motorized shades, and one kind of unique feature I'd not seen elsewhere - solar cells in the glass sunroof wired to activate the car's circulation fan to ventilate the vehicle. In the winter, it switched to trickle charging the battery. This could be a big plus in the hot parts of the country. Don't know if it is still available...haven't looked.

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