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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 13, 2006 10:13 pm) I agree. I guess having 2 lists of cars, one that they can recommend and one for cars that they like a lot but can't would defeat CR's purpose huh? M |
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 15, 2006 9:05 pm) Merc, I have no idea how BMW and Mercedes compare, along the specific dimension Business Week emphasized, which was ordering a vehicle with a customized set of individual options. I also wasn't quoting Business Week in order to praise BMW as the brand offering the most flexibility, only to add to the forum discussion an interesting contrast of brands offered by the CEOs of the two companies being contrasted. Unfortunately for Mercedes right now, when I read about its CEO being interviewed, he is always forced to defend the brand against the assault that CR and JDP have mounted against it.
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Replying to: domenickamarc (Oct 15, 2006 9:40 pm) M |
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 15, 2006 9:04 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 15, 2006 10:18 pm) M
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 15, 2006 10:26 pm) Good question. The Passat has for a long time either been their top rated family sedan, or 2nd place behind the Accord, but its sales are only a tiny fraction of what Camry and Accord ring in. It also often misses the "recommended" mark. I wonder if the two are related. |
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Replying to: domenickamarc (Oct 15, 2006 6:31 pm) Being tall, and having a long torso, I just don't have many cars I can sit in comfortably that have the seemingly mandatory sunroof. To get some of the basic nice things, almost none of the LPS cars can be had without one, which severely limits my choices. Building a car with just the desired specs would open up the possiblities greatly. The US dealers like the instant sale and don't want the trouble of opening up the issues of so many options...well, they lost my business. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 16, 2006 10:46 am) M
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 17, 2006 10:25 am) Good point. A "to the gills" 3.6 is ES350 money, way out of the Camry's league.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 16, 2006 10:46 am) Once again, I spent time helping someone look at cars. This time the incumbant brand was Cadillac. She wanted to look at some "similar" LPS cars. We looked at the M's from Infiniti, even the 300C and a Mercedes. The prices, at first, were also similar. At the last moment (although truth be told she had already decided on another Cadillac) Cadillac "forgave" her last 4 month's lease payments, made her first lease payment on the new car (waived all up front fees, so she had a $0.00 transaction for 30 days) and made her lease 36 months and 18,000 miles, rather than the more traditional 15,000 per year. Her payment dropped nearly $200 per month on the 2006 CTS -- over her 2003. No one else could touch it. She wanted the Cadillac -- "once a Roll's man [er woman] always a Roll's man [sic]" -- Magic. CR sells no cars to nobody I know of, i.e. Of course, as usual, I could be wrong, just not uncertain. 
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