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#8366 of 10007 Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [shipo] by cdnpinhead Sep 19, 2006 (7:18 am)
Replying to: shipo (Sep 19, 2006 6:53 am) I'd settle for just some of them (including at least one diesel).   Anything is better than (at least for the 3 series) two choices. The 5 has three, exactly 30% of the available universe outside of the U.S.
#8367 of 10007 Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [shipo] by dewey Sep 19, 2006 (7:42 am)
Replying to: shipo (Sep 19, 2006 6:53 am) I'm liking the engine choices too. Hopefully most of them will cross the pond.     My hope is that we will at least be seeing two of them:   530d -- 245bhp 3.0-litre six 535d -- 300bhp 3.0-litre six
#8368 of 10007 Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [dewey] by carnaught Sep 20, 2006 (5:20 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Sep 19, 2006 6:26 am) And the rear-end of this 5 series looks a lot like a Hyundai Sonata   BMW really does design the worst derriers in the business.
#8369 of 10007 BMW rear-end by sfcharlie Sep 21, 2006 (10:28 am)
Beauty must really be in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I have found the rear-end designs of the 3 and 5 series, during the 1990s and up to 2004, to be both simple and visually compelling. In addition, my take is that it has been widely copied, including by Hyundai. BMW shouldn't treat it as off-limits because it's now found on many other cars.   If those photos predict what the next chapter will be in the life of the 5-series, I'd assume BMW marketing believes the change back toward previous rear-end design will please the marketplace.
#8370 of 10007 Press request by KarenS HOST Sep 21, 2006 (11:29 am)
A reporter seeks to talk with longtime Volvo or BMW 5-Series owners. Please send your daytime contact info and a sentence or two about your Volvo ownership history to jfallonedmunds.com no later than Wednesday, September 27, 2006.   Thanks, Jeannine Fallon Corporate Communications Edmunds.com
#8371 of 10007 Infiniti does comparison to BMW, but not the other way around by shermanl Sep 23, 2006 (11:35 am)
I've pretty well decided on an M35X but I was comparing it to the BMW525xi on the Infiniti site. Lopsided in favor of the M.   Then I went to the BMW site to see how BMW spinned the comparison but they don't offer an option to compare to the M. Imagine that. They let you compare to Audi A6, Volvo S80, and Saab 9-5. Do you think that BMW knows they can't compare to the M but don't want anyone else to know? Or...has Infiniti just picked the best features to compare to and make it look like the BMW was made by Ford? Replies to this message: lexusguy (Sep 23, 2006 11:38 am) shermanl (Sep 23, 2006 11:41 am) lansdownemike (Sep 23, 2006 2:22 pm) shermanl (Sep 23, 2006 3:52 pm) lexusguy (Sep 23, 2006 8:24 pm)
#8372 of 10007 Re: Infiniti does comparison to BMW, but not the other way around [shermanl by lexusguy Sep 23, 2006 (11:38 am)
Replying to: shermanl (Sep 23, 2006 11:35 am) Then I went to the BMW site to see how BMW spinned the comparison but they don't offer an option to compare to the M.   You don't have to use an automaker's site to get a comparison. There's a ton of sites that will let you compare any car to any other car. Vehix, Cars, etc. I'm sure Edmunds has something. Replies to this message: shermanl (Sep 23, 2006 11:41 am)
#8373 of 10007 Re: Infiniti does comparison to BMW, but not the other way around [shermanl [lexusguy] by shermanl Sep 23, 2006 (11:41 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 23, 2006 11:38 am) Yup, I've been to those sites but that's not the point. The point is why BMW wouldn't compare its 5 to the M on its website.
#8374 of 10007 Re: Infiniti does comparison to BMW, but not the other way around [shermanl by lansdownemike Sep 23, 2006 (2:22 pm)
Replying to: shermanl (Sep 23, 2006 11:35 am) Just out of curiosity, why didn't you compare it to the 530xi? It seems that it might be expected to be a little closer in paper capabilities. Replies to this message: shermanl (Sep 23, 2006 3:52 pm) lexusguy (Sep 23, 2006 8:24 pm)
#8375 of 10007 Re: Infiniti does comparison to BMW, but not the other way around [shermanl [lansdownemike] by shermanl Sep 23, 2006 (3:52 pm)
Replying to: lansdownemike (Sep 23, 2006 2:22 pm) No particular reason, but comparing it to the 525xi gives the M a price advantage of about $9,000 so I guess the 530 would make the 530 more expensive and it wouldn't have all the features of the M.   The only thing that keeps bothering me (which I'll probably forget about after I buy it) is the gas mileage of the M. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Sep 23, 2006 8:24 pm)

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