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Replying to: knowspinzone (Sep 11, 2006 1:33 pm) Full disclosure: the first four were actually IN Germany/Austria. I mean, c'mon, they are BMW's -- and I am of the [former]persuasion who would [past tense] remark: why get a BMW if you are NOT getting a manual? Before you attack that remark, do recall that I am driving an A6 6speed tiptronic. However, at THAT time, I woulda got a stick would one have been offered in that class car WITH AWD. Alas, no 530xi was "on sale" on June 23rd, 2005. NOW, however, I think I am either a kool aid drinker or the new breed of 6, 7 and 8 speed autos have all but banished the problems I can all well attest to with EVERYONE's 5 speed autos (at least everyone's from Europe!) Sorry if you own one, it is one person's opinion. My 2003 allroad was quite possibly my last stick shift. On the bright side -- I am becoming of a mind where I can actually think I might NOT even miss it other than for completely "joy of driving" (via shifting) reasons. Other benefits may -- probably -- offset the drawbacks.
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 11, 2006 3:10 pm) Infiniti's rev matching 5-speed is VERY good for an autobox. The new TL TypeS also offers a 5-speed, paddle-shifted rev matching automatic. I don't think its the 5-speeds thats the problem. |
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Replying to: dewey (Sep 11, 2006 6:01 am) I find that somewhat strange especially when there is a twin turbo BMW 335 coupe and sedan? That will likely have to wait until the 5-Series facelift, probably next spring as early 08' models. M |
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Replying to: merc1 (Sep 11, 2006 8:16 pm)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Sep 12, 2006 5:42 am) Good point. In the 3 series categorty a 335i will not cannibalize sales from the new V8 M3. After hundreds of test drives I've never felt as excited about buying a car as the BMW335i. I hope I can negotiate a reasonable deal this week. |
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Replying to: merc1 (Sep 11, 2006 8:16 pm) No need yet for such a face lift with the 5 series outselling the E Class. Also I would like to point out that we are soon approaching the deadline for our E Class vs. 5 series sales bet. I am kind of disappointed that this was only a gentlemen's bet with no legal tender wagered.
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Sep 12, 2006 5:42 am) At least in BMW's case the 550i would still have more horsepower. The 2007 GS430 has 290hp with the new SAE spec. The GS350 has 303hp. According to Lexus, 0-60 is identical between the two, 5.7 seconds, and 1\4 mile times are also an identical 14.2 seconds. The GS430 starts at a little over $8K more. For that you get... uh..
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Replying to: dewey (Sep 12, 2006 8:26 am) Ha, ha Dew! Also I would like to point out that we are soon approaching the deadline for our E Class vs. 5 series sales bet. I am kind of disappointed that this was only a gentlemen's bet with no legal tender wagered. Yeah can you feel me sweating? I'm starting to cringe as I read the sales reports, but I won't lose faith until Jan 1 and the sales figures are released! M |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 12, 2006 7:11 pm) M |
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CNN Money has interesting article on trends for both auto and manny transmissions. Very favorable comments on Audi's DSG. CNN Tranny |
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