Ask the Car People.SM


Luxury Performance Sedans

10338 messages,  Last post on May 01, 2013 at 3:12 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum.

What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan

Messages Page 836 of 1035

#8342 of 10338 Re: Changes in latitude, changes in attitude. . . [knowspinzone] by markcincinnati

Sep 11, 2006 (4:10 pm)

Replying to: knowspinzone (Sep 11, 2006 2:33 pm)
This is my fifth class and the first one that used automatics.
 
Full disclosure: the first four were actually IN Germany/Austria.
 
I mean, c'mon, they are BMW's -- and I am of the [former]persuasion who would [past tense] remark: why get a BMW if you are NOT getting a manual?
 
Before you attack that remark, do recall that I am driving an A6 6speed tiptronic. However, at THAT time, I woulda got a stick would one have been offered in that class car WITH AWD. Alas, no 530xi was "on sale" on June 23rd, 2005.
 
NOW, however, I think I am either a kool aid drinker or the new breed of 6, 7 and 8 speed autos have all but banished the problems I can all well attest to with EVERYONE's 5 speed autos (at least everyone's from Europe!)
 
Sorry if you own one, it is one person's opinion.
 
My 2003 allroad was quite possibly my last stick shift.
 
On the bright side -- I am becoming of a mind where I can actually think I might NOT even miss it other than for completely "joy of driving" (via shifting) reasons. Other benefits may -- probably -- offset the drawbacks.
 

#8343 of 10338 Re: Changes in latitude, changes in attitude. . . [markcincinnati] by lexusguy

Sep 11, 2006 (5:02 pm)

Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 11, 2006 4:10 pm)
NOW, however, I think I am either a kool aid drinker or the new breed of 6, 7 and 8 speed autos have all but banished the problems I can all well attest to with EVERYONE's 5 speed autos (at least everyone's from Europe!)
 
Infiniti's rev matching 5-speed is VERY good for an autobox. The new TL TypeS also offers a 5-speed, paddle-shifted rev matching automatic. I don't think its the 5-speeds thats the problem.

#8344 of 10338 Re: BMW Product-line [dewey] by merc1

Sep 11, 2006 (9:16 pm)

Replying to: dewey (Sep 11, 2006 7:01 am)
Based on the R & T October edition there is no mention of an upcoming twin turbo 535i series?
  
I find that somewhat strange especially when there is a twin turbo BMW 335 coupe and sedan?
 
That will likely have to wait until the 5-Series facelift, probably next spring as early 08' models.
 
M

#8345 of 10338 Re: BMW Product-line [merc1] by tayl0rd

Sep 12, 2006 (6:42 am)

Replying to: merc1 (Sep 11, 2006 9:16 pm)
Not to mention a 300HP 530i would severely cannibalize 550i sales at this point.

#8346 of 10338 Re: BMW Product-line [tayl0rd] by dewey

Sep 12, 2006 (9:21 am)

Replying to: tayl0rd (Sep 12, 2006 6:42 am)
Not to mention a 300HP 530i would severely cannibalize 550i sales at this point.
 
Good point. In the 3 series categorty a 335i will not cannibalize sales from the new V8 M3.
 
After hundreds of test drives I've never felt as excited about buying a car as the BMW335i. I hope I can negotiate a reasonable deal this week.

#8347 of 10338 Re: BMW Product-line [merc1] by dewey

Sep 12, 2006 (9:26 am)

Replying to: merc1 (Sep 11, 2006 9:16 pm)
That will likely have to wait until the 5-Series facelift, probably next spring as early 08' models.
 
No need yet for such a face lift with the 5 series outselling the E Class.
 
Also I would like to point out that we are soon approaching the deadline for our E Class vs. 5 series sales bet. I am kind of disappointed that this was only a gentlemen's bet with no legal tender wagered.

#8348 of 10338 Re: BMW Product-line [tayl0rd] by lexusguy

Sep 12, 2006 (8:11 pm)

Replying to: tayl0rd (Sep 12, 2006 6:42 am)
Not to mention a 300HP 530i would severely cannibalize 550i sales at this point.
 
At least in BMW's case the 550i would still have more horsepower. The 2007 GS430 has 290hp with the new SAE spec. The GS350 has 303hp. According to Lexus, 0-60 is identical between the two, 5.7 seconds, and 1\4 mile times are also an identical 14.2 seconds. The GS430 starts at a little over $8K more. For that you get... uh..

#8349 of 10338 Re: BMW Product-line [dewey] by merc1

Sep 12, 2006 (10:25 pm)

Replying to: dewey (Sep 12, 2006 9:26 am)
No need yet for such a face lift with the 5 series outselling the E Class.
 
Ha, ha Dew!
 
Also I would like to point out that we are soon approaching the deadline for our E Class vs. 5 series sales bet. I am kind of disappointed that this was only a gentlemen's bet with no legal tender wagered.
 
Yeah can you feel me sweating? I'm starting to cringe as I read the sales reports, but I won't lose faith until Jan 1 and the sales figures are released!
 
M

#8350 of 10338 Re: BMW Product-line [lexusguy] by merc1

Sep 12, 2006 (10:26 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 12, 2006 8:11 pm)
That makes me think there will be a 2008 GS460 on sale around Jan 2007, there has to be IMO. The GS lineup doesn't make sense as it stands for "2007".
 
M

#8351 of 10338 Good article on transmission trends by purplem46

Sep 13, 2006 (7:07 am)

CNN Money has interesting article on trends for both auto and manny transmissions. Very favorable comments on Audi's DSG.
 
CNN Tranny

Messages Page 836 of 1035

To POST a message, please Sign In.

Advertisement

Browse by Category

Browse by Vehicle
   View All Vehicles

Browse by Board
Browse by Topic
View All Topics

Edmunds Community

Advertisement