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Replying to: domenickamarc (Sep 04, 2006 8:26 am) |
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Replying to: domenickamarc (Sep 04, 2006 8:26 am) Good job! |
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Replying to: domenickamarc (Sep 04, 2006 8:26 am) Thanks & congratulations on your new car. |
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Replying to: domenickamarc (Sep 04, 2006 8:26 am) |
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Replying to: felke001 (Sep 04, 2006 8:17 am) Can you specify a GS with a Sport Suspension option? NOT a Sport Pacakge, or Sport Appearance Group, or some other designation that, while including the word Sport, does NOT contain a sport suspension. The 530xi sport package, for instance, does NOT include a sport suspension. Audi offers SLine which IS BOTH appearance AND performance bits for the [some would say "steep" price]. The Audi SLine gives you sport wheels, tires, suspension bits and some ground effects. The Infiniti M35X could have been dealer uprated at the time (mid 2005) with 19" wheels and UHP tires, but not suspension calibration. Some of the sport offerings seem, too, to only come with Auto trans if there's AWD involved. This has become, even for die hard manual trans fans (bigots) like me, to be much less of an issue what with the 6 speed auto trans being as good as they are these days. Anyway: can you actually get a Lexus with a true Sport Suspension even if it isn't part of a sport group or package? Just wondering. 
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 05, 2006 7:36 am) Actually there isn't even really a "sport package", which as you say is more often about appearance rather than reality.
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Replying to: felke001 (Sep 05, 2006 7:54 am) BMW, of all companies, will not sell their AWD vehicles with a sport package -- as far as I know, ONLY the X3 is an exception to this. Go figure. I have argued that perhaps the Audi NEEDS SLine to somewhat counteract its big schnoze (nose heavy, don't you know?) A bunch of folks on another board are big into the air suspension option Audi offers, which is somewhat confusing since it seems to be an evolution of the allroad suspension which although dynamic, was NOT real-time. The stiffer springs, sway-bars and struts/shocks offered by some of the companies do a great job of taming some of the nasty habits these cars develop (or so it seems) as the "L" is boosted, often at the sake of "P" (in LPS, natch.) Now Audi, for one, does have a real-time, dynamic but passive system they use with great effect on the RS cars -- dual diagonal "shocks" which serve the purpose of sending the fluid to the diagonal corner, so that when going around a corner with great spirit, so to speak, the opposite "shocks" are stiffened thus maintaining the car's stance instead of simply "rolling" as most suspensions, even the stiff ones, seem to permit. Now, why do we have to buy a +$10 or $20,000 car just to get this? Seems, too, that such as system permits a very stiff chassis and some relatively comfortable spring rates all the while actually improving the handling -- and if it works in a portly-front-loaded Audi A6, imagine what it could do in a Bimmer or even the spanky "M" class Infiniti? Were I king of the Auto Configuration World, I would allow us all to pick and choose the best of breed stuff. How about a 7 speed DSG or even, perhaps, that nifty new Lexus 8 speed [auto], how about selecting your V6 LPS and being able to specify a light or heavy turbo treatment? Dynamic Ride Control (a la Audi), sure, check here. How about uprated/upsized wheels with UHP Summer or All Season shoes? Cross drilled or slotted rotors? Sure why not, another option box please? And so on. |
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Sorry i've not kept up with the forums lately... ksso
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 05, 2006 7:36 am) NOT a Sport Pacakge, or Sport Appearance Group, or some other designation that, while including the word Sport, does NOT contain a sport suspension. While not specified as a "sport" suspension, the GS430 does offer an "Active Stabilizer Suspension System": Working in conjunction with sensors and a computer that detect the amount of force needed to help keep the vehicle flat in a turn, the active stabilizer system increases roll resistance by twisting the stabilizer bars. Which pre-loads them to help them behave like thicker sway bars without having to compromise a smooth ride. Its a $3K individual option. The GS350 doesn't offer any suspension changes or upgrades. Infiniti offers the Sport version with the V6, but only on RWD models. Its the same with the G35, the X version gets no sport suspension option and smaller wheels with all-season tires. The only Lexus to offer a "sport package" is the IS350, which is mostly an appearance package, but does have a "sport-tuned suspension" which is basically stiffer shock and spring rates. |
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 05, 2006 9:51 am) I'd like an M35x Sport with light pressure turbo, DSG, and the Fuga piano black interior trim. |
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