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#8071 of 10339 Re: The BMW "Brand" [lexusguy] by drtravel

Aug 10, 2006 (1:30 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 1:05 pm)
The Calty studio did a great job with the SC400 back in '91, and since then.. well..
 
Back in 1991 I was standing in line at a movie theater and I saw this great looking car drive by... it was the brand new Lexus SC 400. So a few months later I had to buy one. They still look great although the new style SC looks worse than even Bangle's nightmares.

#8072 of 10339 Re: The BMW "Brand" [lexusguy] by drtravel

Aug 10, 2006 (1:39 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2006 12:45 pm)
Toyota knows that the vast majority of the auto buying public, at least in the US, are not driving enthusiasts. They have no idea how a car works, they just want things like simple controls, comfort, and reliability, which are all things Toyota does very well.
 
So what does this say about all those BMW renters? Are they really that interested in the driving mechanics or status? I know there are quite a few enthusiasts who rent BMW's because of their handling, engine etc. Actually everyone who visits this forum probably falls under this category, but a majority of actual buyers do not.
 
This might also explain why Audis outsell BMWs in Germany but the sales figures are not close in the US. In the performance orientated part of the world (i.e. Germany) Audis and BMWs are very close. In the status part of the world (i.e. US) BMWs outsell Audis.

#8073 of 10339 Re: The BMW "Brand" [drtravel] by hpowders

Aug 10, 2006 (2:25 pm)

Replying to: drtravel (Aug 10, 2006 9:36 am)
An excellent post.
You nailed it.
The German Status thing is very influential in decision-making for many BMW owners, and yes, so many do get the automatic transmission, and yes, quite a few would probably be just as satisfied with an Accord or Camry.
 
All of us driving luxury vehicles have made a statement.
 
These high-priced performance cars are basically wasted in the USA with their ridiculous speed limits with smokey waiting to pounce on those horrible law-breakers going 30mph in a 20 mph zone while someone could be getting raped down the block.
It's a wonder anybody buys or rents BMW, Porsche or Infiniti over here.
Pretty much a waste, except for the "look at me" status thing.
Putting these cars through their paces like the autorags do, is just a forbidden fantasy to many of us.

#8074 of 10339 Re: The BMW "Brand" [drtravel] by hpowders

Aug 10, 2006 (2:38 pm)

Replying to: drtravel (Aug 10, 2006 1:39 pm)
I rent BMW's because I have not found any other vehicle in its segment that I would rather be driving when a lunatic in an adjacent lane comes over to share.
I have avoided several highway accidents due to the agility of these extraordinary vehicles.
I feel totally safe in BMW vehicles and they have my complete confidence.

#8075 of 10339 OK here's a rant... by drtravel

Aug 10, 2006 (2:41 pm)

How come leather seats are not STANDARD on all luxury autos??? Isn't leather a minimum requirement of luxury? And of course I get a kick out of how you can't find a Lexus without the "optional" leather seats.
 
Just my two cents worth....

#8076 of 10339 Re: The BMW "Brand" [drtravel] by lexusguy

Aug 10, 2006 (2:43 pm)

Replying to: drtravel (Aug 10, 2006 1:30 pm)
Back in 1991 I was standing in line at a movie theater and I saw this great looking car drive by... it was the brand new Lexus SC 400. So a few months later I had to buy one. They still look great although the new style SC looks worse than even Bangle's nightmares.
 
I remember when I first drove the original SC being extremely impressed by how modern and intuitive its controls were. The inside didn't look dated even when it went out of production in 2000. The inside of the S class coupe and 850i, on the other hand, looks straight out of the '80s.

#8077 of 10339 Re: The BMW "Brand" [hpowders] by dewey

Aug 10, 2006 (3:01 pm)

Replying to: hpowders (Aug 10, 2006 2:25 pm)
I completely disagree.
 
I could not care less what logo is on my hood. It's how the car drives and whether it suits my family needs that counts. That is why I chose a BMW530xi.
 

#8078 of 10339 Re: The BMW "Brand" [dewey] by hpowders

Aug 10, 2006 (3:52 pm)

Replying to: dewey (Aug 10, 2006 3:01 pm)
I wasn't referring to you, Dewey, or any typical Edmunds posters who are enthusiasts and truly love how their vehicles drive.
 
I was profiling the "typical" BMW driver, who wouldn't think of ordering mt and sport package-who is more into comfort through status and would probably be just as happy driving an Accord or Camry.
 
I'm with you. As long as BMW's are the best-performing in their segment, I'm hooked, even though I enjoy testing other vehicles.
 
Can't wait to drive the twin-turbo 335i next month!

#8079 of 10339 Re: OEM Pricing [bookedup] by james27

Aug 10, 2006 (4:14 pm)

Replying to: bookedup (Aug 10, 2006 8:42 am)
Havne't read all of the responses, so this may have been answered already...check out crutchfield.com . They probably can supply a variety of changers that will fit with any adapter cables, if required.

#8080 of 10339 Re: OK here's a rant... [drtravel] by james27

Aug 10, 2006 (4:20 pm)

Replying to: drtravel (Aug 10, 2006 2:41 pm)
Try to sit in the seat of a car basking in the sun in Phoenix all day covered in leather...cloth has its advantages.

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