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Replying to: breld (Jul 27, 2006 8:08 am) I agree that there are no bad cars among those being discussed on this forum. There are aesthetic differences, which matter to different degrees to each of us. It might be "shallow" on my part, but it actually enhances my sense of enjoyment of my car if, when I see the same model go by on the street or highway, I think "boy, that is a great looking car." I'm surprised, after the fact, that I took one home about which I really didn't feel that way. If I had bought it instead of leased it, the lack of excitement about how it looks when I am walking toward it, how it feels when I'm sitting in, and the subtle differences in my experience of the drive train and chassis charactersitics would all be leading me to see what I could get by selling it and just moving on. |
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jul 26, 2006 3:00 pm) I like this post. I have a friend whose finances have allowed him to (simultaneously) own several highly desirable cars (Porsche, BMW M5, and MB). He routinely goes for a two day drive out of town and into the backroads. It's akin to a spiritual activity for him. Acquiring a new car clearly is done with future versions of these drives in mind. I've noticed that, when I've had a car with which I was "in love" I do what you're saying is too absent in these exchanges -- take it out "on dates" or "away for the weekend" and, if I'm talking about where I've been, I'll include some description of the car as a contributor to, along with my wife and I, the pleasures of the event. One of the clues I had to my (absurd, regrettable, pathetic, etc) having drifted into taking home a car I don't love in that way, is that any mention of the car is limited to voicing one side or another of my ambivalence about it. |
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Have not visited here lately and can't believe one of the first threads I read is from Shipo - wow. We spoke about three years ago when I bought my 02 CPO - LOL. Anyways, I now have 75K on my 02 and am contemplating getting rid of it before: 1. It gets to 100K miles and the value really drops 2. I have to deal with a new transmission at about 100K miles. Never had a problem with the car yet, and I am a novice here with this question - but how long do these transmissions last considering they are well taken care of. 3. Does CPO cover a new tranny should it go before 100K miles? Thanks |
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Jul 26, 2006 11:11 am) European vehicles are "driving machines"! I prefer to enjoy and yes, dare I say LOVE driving my 328ci anyday of the week over my Nissan Maxima, which is still a "good car". I am currently looking at and comparing vehicles in the bracket of BMW's 540i (2003 model year) and thus far have yet to find something even remotely enjoyable or as valued as the BMW. Nothing really even comes close.
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Replying to: curtisb (Jul 27, 2006 3:10 pm) European vehicles are "driving machines"! Again, over generalizing. The Japanese and Europeans can both make driving machines, they just have different ideas as to what a driving machine is. Of course a Nissan Maxima (which used to have a beam axle in back for "extra rear seat room") is no match for a 328ci. Japan's "ultimate driving machines" are more akin to a Porsche GT3 RS than anything BMW makes. They dont waste any weight on wood and leather. Generally, they also have never been sold in the US. Japan's highest performance cars that are currently in production are the Lancer Evo MR FQ400, and the WRX STi Spec. C WR. 0-60 takes place in about 4 seconds, and only the fastest Porsches would be able to catch them on a track. The M3 or M5 wouldn't have a chance.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 27, 2006 4:46 pm) M |
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Replying to: merc1 (Jul 27, 2006 8:17 pm) True, just making a point that Japan can make world-beating UHP cars if they want to. At the same time, recent efforts from Mazda and Nissan like the MS6 and Infiniti M show that they can do Euro style, "mature" performance cars as well. I'd very much like to see Infiniti adopt an AMG style performance arm. Surely if Cadillac can do it, they can.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 27, 2006 8:42 pm) I think what you said earlier about where the car originate from and the priorities that shape them on their homeland have a great deal to do with who make what. Brilliant point. Nissan and Mazda while credible, don't really apply here though. Cadillac doing a performance arm is really something, but as of late they seem to be taking one loss after another. They have the power, but not the refinement or polish to make any real waves in the AMG/M/RS world it seems. M
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Jul 27, 2006 7:37 am) |
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So, after all this talk of European vs. Japanese, my own experiences comparing the M35 vs. 530, and in particular, the emotional side of the car decision, I may just have found my car today. I browse Autotrader daily, getting a feel for the market for 530xi's, on a national basis. Figure I'd do something early next year, when there's more of a used market for them. There's been several interesting listings, but always out-of-state, which isn't unthinkable by any means, but it was enough to keep me at bay. Well, today a listing pops up at a local dealership - 2006 530xiT, 6,500 miles, CPO, and here's the kicker - manual trannie. Now, I've been a pretty die-hard stick shift guy, but over the last several months, as I started looking at this LPS class, I found myself accepting, and more recently, even embracing, the idea of getting an automatic. Part of it was indeed liking the idea of perhaps a more "relaxed" driving experience for the daily commute, and part of it was simply out of necessity - other than the BMW, there is no choice in this class. And considering I resolved myself to the used market for a 530 (for price reasons), I figured chances of finding a manual were pretty slim anyhow. Then I saw this listing, and it definitely gets my juices flowing. I'm the responsible father dropping off my two boys at daycare in the family truckster, and then continue on my way to work in my 6-speed manual sports wagon!  Well, I'll probably take a look at it tomorrow. I could see myself going ahead with it if the numbers work out, but I could just as easily see myself holding off until next year. I kind of enjoy the process - weighing the pros and cons of the different choices, doing the research, the "hunt" for that gem in the used market. Kinda crazy, huh?
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