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Re: Sudden Acceleration [shipo] by tayl0rd
Jul 17, 2006 (5:52 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jul 15, 2006 8:28 pm)

Agreed. There aren't any cars out there whose (stock) engine can overpower its brakes, unless the brakes are in need of service. And even then, they would have to be near a condition of literally failing to work at all.
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Bose audio system review in Stereophile by bfeng7
Jul 17, 2006 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 05, 2005 9:23 pm)

People who express satisfaction for Bose automotive systems sometimes use the disclaimer, "but I'm not an audiophile so I don't know if are really good." I personally perceive a high percentage of the anti-Bose folks as people who proclaim themselves to be audiophiles. The problem is that latter camp sometimes dismisses the Bose option without having heard the specific system under discussion.
 
To both camps, I can only say, "if you like it, it's good."
 
Some interesting reading for y'all.
http://stereophile.com/news/071706infiniti/
 
John Feng
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Re: Sudden Acceleration [david83] by pearl
Jul 17, 2006 (2:57 pm)
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Replying to: david83 (Jul 15, 2006 7:46 am)

the brakes will ALWAYS beat the engine. After the idiotic "unintended acceleration" claims years ago that almost ended Audis existence in the U.S. Car and Driver and many other organizations tested the Audi 5000 mercilessly. They concluded that there were NO, repeat NO, circumstances in which the engine could overpower the brakes. They also concluded that the reason the cars were accelerating was that people had their foot on the gas and thought it was on the brake. I have no idea what caused the situation you described, but I seriously doubt that you had your foot off the gas and on the brakes and they could not stop the car.
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Re: Bose audio system review in Stereophile [bfeng7] by lexusguy
Jul 17, 2006 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: bfeng7 (Jul 17, 2006 2:22 pm)

People who express satisfaction for Bose automotive systems sometimes use the disclaimer, "but I'm not an audiophile so I don't know if are really good." I personally perceive a high percentage of the anti-Bose folks as people who proclaim themselves to be audiophiles. The problem is that latter camp sometimes dismisses the Bose option without having heard the specific system under discussion.
 
As I've said in the past, car stereos is the one area where I think Bose has done some very good work, and it seems that the most recent Infiniti\Bose collabs are the best of the lot. The top level Infiniti M stereo is easily a match for Lexus\ML, Volvo\Dynaudio, or Acura\ELS, and it seems as if the system in the new G will be as good if not better.
 
The reason why Bose car audio can be so good is exactly the same reason that holds back the home products. Priorities. The Bose engineers working with Infiniti have the exact same goals as the Mark Levinson engineers. Make the system sound as good as it possibly can. You don't have to worry about making a cutesy system with plenty of WAF when you're making a car stereo.
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Re: Sudden Acceleration [pearl] by qbrozen
Jul 18, 2006 (5:33 am)
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Replying to: pearl (Jul 17, 2006 2:57 pm)

Don't worry, guys. Just let it die. He was obviously a troll.
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Re: Bose audio system review in Stereophile [lexusguy] by hpowders
Jul 18, 2006 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 17, 2006 3:12 pm)

I have been reading nothing but raves about the upgraded optional Bose 11 speaker, 7 channel digital amp. system in the Porsche Cayman S.
I don't know how one can hear it effectively given the loudness of the engine.
Seems like a complete disconnect between Bose home and car audio.
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Re: Bose audio system review in Stereophile [lexusguy] by markcincinnati
Jul 18, 2006 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 17, 2006 3:12 pm)

My 13 speaker Bose system is "good to very good" -- it is NOT as good as the Infiniti M's w/Technology Package, but I cannot imagine what would posses me to pony up $8K for Audi's B&O system after hearing the M's.
 
Now, an upgrade, a factory upgrade to the one I have -- perhaps for $995, would possibly have merit.
 
I listen to Sirius a lot, but I also listen to a lot of Books on CD -- the extra fidelity while nice, has little financial value with my listening habits.
 
I applaud the constant move upscale, but the M's Bose system and the system that was, in 2005 at least, in the Acura (w/DVD audio) fantastic.
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Re: Bose audio system review in Stereophile [hpowders] by lexusguy
Jul 18, 2006 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jul 18, 2006 7:38 am)

Seems like a complete disconnect between Bose home and car audio.
 
Unsurprisingly, Bose's previous efforts to compete directly with traditional speaker companies such as the 701 and 801 have all been killed off, probably because they were awful. For whatever reason though, the 901s are still made. Considering the age of their design, the production cost is probably almost nil, so that could explain it.
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2007 GS350 by jrock65
Jul 18, 2006 (1:18 pm)
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It's confirmed.
 
The 2007 GS350 will have 303 hp and 274 torque.
 
The V6 GS will go from slowest-in-class to fastest-in-class. I'd expect a mag to get 5.6s or so.
 
No word on a GS460.
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Re: 2007 GS350 [jrock65] by lansdownemike
Jul 18, 2006 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: jrock65 (Jul 18, 2006 1:18 pm)

Do you know whether there will be an AWD version?

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