- #7823 of 10007
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Re: Diesel LPS performance: an example [jlbl]
by upuaut
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Jul 13, 2006 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Jul 13, 2006 3:14 am)
US gallons are 3.78 litres, British imperial gallons are 4.54 litres. Miles and pounds are the same in USA and British systems. Are you saying you were using US gallons when you said you got 50 MPG in a diesel 5 series? That doesn't sound possible, that is what a Smart car gets.
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- #7824 of 10007
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Re: You may find this of note. . . [jrock65]
by upuaut
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Jul 13, 2006 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: jrock65 (Jul 13, 2006 5:21 am)
I totally agree that it is not realistic for the M to outsell the 5. Could Infiniti even make that many? Does their factory have the capacity? I think they would have to ramp up production slowly. Then there is the badge issue. Imagine what the sales would be like if BM had made the car we know as the M, and Infiniti had made the car we know as the 5. What chance would Infiniti have to outsell the BMW "5"? I say zero, because that car would have the little blue propeller on it.
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- #7825 of 10007
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Re: BMW in the news [sfcharlie]
by upuaut
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Jul 13, 2006 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: sfcharlie (Jul 13, 2006 5:46 am)
In a way it does make sense to compare the M45 and the 530, they are about the same $. Here in Canada (These are all CDN funds, from Infiniti and BMW websites)the M45 MSRP is $66k, the 530 $67.8k. The M35 is $56.4k, would be similar acceleration as the 530, but then the reveiwer would give it points for being $11k less.
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- #7826 of 10007
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Re: BMW in the news [upuaut]
by lexusguy
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Jul 13, 2006 (9:37 pm)
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Replying to: upuaut (Jul 13, 2006 10:48 am)
Thats exactly what C&D spelled out in their comparo. It wasn't "V8 LPS comparison", it was $55K LPS comparison, and thats all you can get from BMW for $55K. Its not Infiniti's fault that they can offer the M45 for $55K. One could ask whether considering MSRP is relevant in a class of car where almost all sales are leases, but those were the rules.
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- #7827 of 10007
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Re: BMW in the news [lexusguy]
by merc1
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Jul 13, 2006 (10:55 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 13, 2006 9:37 pm)
I've had a love/hate relationship with C&D for nearly 20 years about this! I can remember 300SLs being compared to V12 Jaguars and V8 Cadillacs because of price, yet all the cars being tested were out of the reach of the average consumer. Car and Driver is sometimes so smart to the point where they're stupid, IMO. R&T and MT just puts the cars together the way they should be, well more often than C&D does. What really gets me is that they seem to randomly pick and choose when price matters. In the recent roadster comparo the prices range from 75K to 102K, yet they call it the 100K question. Yeah sure. I'd guess I'd rather see the right cars be compared and have those that are too expensive get knocked on price/value rather than have a car with the right price get creamed because of its powertrain.
M
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- #7828 of 10007
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Re: Diesel LPS performance: an example [upuaut]
by jlbl
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Jul 14, 2006 (1:49 am)
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Replying to: upuaut (Jul 13, 2006 9:50 am)
Thank you again for the information. And, after re-revising my notes I have to say that, yes  , I confused inadvertently the US gallon for an incorrect figure of the British imperial gallon unit.
Correctly recalculated, the consume was 40.9 miles per US gallon.
(Former estimations posted by me here in Edmunds as well as those written in my user profile were rightly calculated in US gallons, however.)
Regards,
Jose
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- #7829 of 10007
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Re: JUNE SALES? [merc1] BMW and Audi, for example [sfcharlie] [markcincinnati]
by dhanley
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Jul 14, 2006 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Jul 11, 2006 4:59 am)
I've been to several BMW driving events, and a recent audi driving event here in chicago.
The audi event was interesting--there was music, fantastic food, reiki, massage, but driving the cars almost seemed to be an afterthought, and you couldn't drive more than two of them. I was really dissapointed, i did want to drive everything.
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- #7830 of 10007
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Re: You may find this of note. . . [hpowders]
by quemfala
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Jul 15, 2006 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jul 12, 2006 3:44 pm)
They aren't "selling", they're "leasing"!
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- #7831 of 10007
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Sudden Acceleration
by david83
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Jul 15, 2006 (7:46 am)
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I have a 2006 A8L and it's an unbelieveable car. I've had it about 6 months and believed it to be the finest car I've ever owned. Leaving a shopping center last week after slightly accelerating, the thing took off full throttle! I found out, that the car will continue accelerating thru full braking! Scared the you know what out of me! I smashed the stop button repeatedly an it finally decelerated. Made a U turn and off it went again...quickly redlined then died. Went to Audi, found nothing...Audi USA took my info and i never heard back from them. Anyone else having a problem?
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- #7832 of 10007
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Re: Sudden Acceleration [david83]
by james27
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Jul 15, 2006 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: david83 (Jul 15, 2006 7:46 am)
Do you work for 60-minutes?
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