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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 22, 2006 4:36 pm) The present VQ engine is a known (thirsty but stone reliable) quantity. The new one is not.
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jun 22, 2006 4:53 pm) That doesn't seem likely. Lexus is launching its brand new V8 in its most premier vehicle. I dont think the reason that Infiniti held back on giving the M the new engine for '07 is that they are worried its going to fall apart. |
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Jun 21, 2006 10:10 am)
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Replying to: cumptrnrd (Jun 22, 2006 6:32 pm) |
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I'm driving my new M35. Still have memories of other cars I test drove, especially Audi A6, which was other final contender. What I'm aware of (using the three terms above, which trichotomy I read somewhere) is (1) steering -- maybe a tad too easy (like old power steering on some American cars, but not that easier) or, to put it another way, not as tight as the Audi or the BMW 325i was driving; and, in terms of feedback to driver, not as much sense of feeling the road with my hands through the steering wheel, as with the A6. (2) Roadholding (grip between tires and road when cornering) seems great. No drift or feeling I'm losing control, driving and corners and highway curves just as I did with BMW. (3) Handling -- M35 settles right into comfortable and steady cornering, but it's a bit as if I'm watching it happen (a bit magical) and not feeling myself making it happen. Seem familiar to any other M35 drivers of those test-driving the different cars in the LPS category?
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 21, 2006 8:12 pm) Upe
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Replying to: sfcharlie (Jun 23, 2006 10:36 am) I would probably agree that the M's steering is a little lighter than the Germans, but I don't think it gives away anything in terms of road feel to the Audi. Of course the BMW 5's (without AS) is the most telepathic of the bunch. The M is better than the GS300 and RL, and miles ahead of the GS430 in terms of road feel from the wheel. Infiniti definitely has not cracked the magic BMW code yet, but considering the new M is 100,000% better than the old one, I don't think it will be long now. The new 5 is certainly not 100,000% better than the old one. I think that the '07 G35 is probably going to just slightly fall short of the 3 in terms of pure driving dynamics, but like the M, probably not enough to lose comparison tests to it. Should be very interesting. |
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Replying to: upuaut (Jun 23, 2006 1:31 pm) |
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Replying to: hpowders (Jun 12, 2006 3:01 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 23, 2006 2:34 pm) That might be me. Automobile Journalists Association of Canada holds an event in which the journalists drive all the cars and rate them. For “steering,” among “Luxury” cars they rated Audi A6 7.8 BMW 5 Series Touring 8.3 Infiniti M45 Sport 8.1 Lexus GS 7.5 Lincoln Zephyr 6.9 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class 8.1 Mercedes-Benz R-Class 7.4 And for “handling,” they rated: Audi A6 7.8 BMW 5 Series Touring 8.0 Infiniti M45 Sport 8.2 Lexus GS 7.8 Lincoln Zephyr 7.5 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class 7.7 Mercedes-Benz R-Class 6.3 I never drove the Infiniti Sport models, but having driven the BMW 3-series (which rated 8.3 on steering and 8.9 on handling), having test-driven the Audi A6 in all configurations, and now driving the M35, I was surprised that the Audi was so far away from the Infiniti and BMW. Maybe I’m viscerally remembering the S-Line which I drove last. Also, not sure if BMW "Touring" and Infiniti M45 "Sport" is right two to compare or artificially inflates score of M, relative to BMW. |
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