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10007 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 7:40 AM
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I generally agree with the tiers people have posted. I would suggest that if you are a non-car enthusiast, jag ranks high. There is a perception of jags as something very special among the general population, who don't know the x-type is a pretty mondeo and the s-type shares many parts with the taurus. Admittedly, i have toyed with the idea of picking up a CPO'd xj8 at some point. I do think it's a good car in objective terms, particularly for the money. dave
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I'm getting ready to buy an STS V6 with the Luxury Performance package. Other cars I was considering were the E350, A6 3.2, and 530i (I'm not considering any Japanese offerings for personal reasons), and the Caddy was just the best deal considering price and options, especially the AWD. Also, I've read only good things about it. The TMV price is $3k cheaper than the discount my employer offers. I just had a few questions before I went out price shopping: 1. Does anyone have any gripes at all about the car? 2. Does anyone out there think the AWD is worth it? 3. I think I read that the '07 would be coming with a 6-speed... Should I wait? 4. Does anyone know of any other major changes in the near future? I was thinking about a CTS, but not with a redesign planned for the '08... 5. Any other tips/comments Thanks
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Replying to: dhanley (Jun 21, 2006 8:57 am) I am aware that the Y2K Jag S-Type shared substantial platform configuration and motors trans with the Lincoln LS. The two diverged much further for the 2003 MY. If there are any Taurus parts (I’d be very surprised) they are likely nothing that would significantly effect performance or occupant driving \ riding experience – and I’d be very curious to see a source for that statement. - Ray Driver of 2000 & 2003 Lincoln LS – s . . |
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Replying to: cumptrnrd (Jun 21, 2006 9:04 am) Check the STS only board as a starting point. After extensive test drives of the car, I would certainly consider it at least for 50,000 miles. My only issue was that without the "sporting bits" it was numb -- and even with the magna ride was a little (very little) vague compared to a German car. 2. Does anyone out there think the AWD is worth it? Oh for pity's sake, don't even get me started -- the only way to go with this car is with the AWD; and this AWD system has received praise from other than AWD fanatics like me. Really. 3. I think I read that the '07 would be coming with a 6-speed... Should I wait? You can wait til the cows come home, the '07 will have the 5 speed unless you are willing to spring for the V8. 4. Does anyone know of any other major changes in the near future? I was thinking about a CTS, but not with a redesign planned for the '08... What do you mean "near future" -- two years perhaps, but for '07 and '08, the only real change I can imagine is the offering of the 6speed in the V6 in time for the '08 model year. Note to self: the V6 would gain the most from the 6speed automatic who in the wide wide world of sports thought putting it first in the V8 was a brilliant idea? 5. Any other tips/comments Negotiate, negotiate, dance to the music, negotiate! Why? Around here SRX's and STS's can be seen with $10,000 off sticker.
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Replying to: sfcharlie (Jun 21, 2006 4:49 am) When I made that list, I placed them in the order I felt the "average American" might see them, not necessarily how I see them. Personally, I agree with mark about where the Cadillac badge would be. I don't agree with him though that Lexus and Infiniti are on the same level. I don't think that the Infiniti name carries any more weight than the Acura name does, Infiniti needs to build a Q that somebody will actually buy first. As for what I would recommend to somebody looking for a car in the LPS class who likes to drive, "badge effect" wouldn't really matter. I have to say the M, either in V8 RWD form, or M35x form if AWD is a must have feature. The M is what I would buy for myself. I'm not sure that I can come up with four more choices. I'm not really a fan of the S-type, GS, RL, or E. I guess I would pick the A6 as my "second choice". I can definitely see how the 5 would be perfect for certain people, but not for me. |
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Replying to: dhamilton (Jun 21, 2006 7:53 am) Very bizzare as he usually has nothing but praise for Audi. Since when? Clarkson usually hates Audis. He always bashes them for understeer, what he perceives as lifeless steering, and overly harsh rides. One of the only generally positive Audi reviews I've read of his recently is of the new Audi TT 2.0T, but only because its such an improvement over the last car, which he said was completely awful.
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jun 21, 2006 7:53 am) You could get XM as a dealer accessory ($278 MSRP, installation not included).
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Replying to: jrock65 (Jun 22, 2006 6:27 am) 2007 M35 RWD (Journey + Tech): $46,400 2007 M35 AWD (Tech): $48,150 What's interesting is that the price of AWD has dropped from $2500 in 2006 to $1750 in 2007. |
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Replying to: jrock65 (Jun 21, 2006 6:50 am)
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Replying to: pearl (Jun 22, 2006 12:00 pm) It could be that they are waiting for the M's mid-cycle refresh to introduce the more powerful engine, or perhaps they want to squeeze more power out of the VK45 first, so that the two of them would not be so close, at least in horsepower.
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