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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#7179 of 10348 Re: Used BMW long term test [markcincinnati]
Apr 11, 2006 (7:49 am)
Back in the days when only academics had Internet access & "going online" required a subscription to 1 of the proprietary services, like GEnie or Prodigy, the sysop of CompuServe's personal finance forum used to rail against leases & loans. His approach to car acquisition: only drive what you can afford to pay cash for, don't buy new & don't spend more than $15K or $16K, even if you can afford to do so. To his way of thinking, there was nothing worse than being "upside down" on a car - owing more than the car was worth. He saw nothing wrong with fending off boredom by switching rides frequently as long as you adhered to these restrictions. At that time (this must've been 1990 or '91), $16K would put you into a 2 or 3-year old 3-series BMW or a 5 or 6-year-old 5-series.
#7180 of 10348 Re: Used BMW long term test [markcincinnati]
Apr 11, 2006 (9:05 am)
While I would never say the Cayenne is "twin sons of different mothers" with the cars we discuss here, in terms of performance it isn't far off (the X5 is close too). The V8 Cayenne would certainly beat a lot of the V6 LPS' acceleration-wise, and the Turbo S would beat pretty much all of the V8's we discuss acceleration-wise as well (for a price of over $100K though). Both would lose in the turns, but you'd be surprised how the Cayenne gets around the curves if you've never driven one (particularly if it has the adjustable air suspension). Obviously to get a 5,500 lb truck to behave like a 4,000 lbs LPS is difficult to achieve though. Not being defensive of my new ride, but going from the 545 to the Cayenne S is much less of a difference than I thought it would be.
On the subject of advice, I think it's great to seek out advice here about lots of things. I was just saying I find the "help me decide" postings somewhat odd. Maybe it's just me, but I just wouldn't want or need that kind of input. I'm not really referring to Greg because he has never had a car before. It's the older folks I'm talking about.
#7181 of 10348 Re: Used BMW long term test [rich545]
Apr 11, 2006 (10:10 am)
I represent that remark!
#7182 of 10348 Re: Used BMW long term test [markcincinnati]
Apr 11, 2006 (10:13 am)
Sorry, I meant compared to 15 year olds! I'm included in that as well (36)!
#7183 of 10348 Re: Used BMW long term test [rich545]
Apr 11, 2006 (10:33 am)
I'm 36 too, but I'd listen to advice here about car qualities, but I'd give more weight to those who own the vehicles about which they speak. LPS's are a specific genre/type of vehicle and owners of such are generally specific about their likes and dislikes.
It is up to the original requestor of said information to weigh the value of the input provided. But ultimately, it his that person's decision as to what is important. Experience with particular models does help though.
FWIW, I drive vehicles that are not particularly marketed to my age group. LPS's are generally considered for older (40's and 50's and higher).
#7184 of 10348 Re: Used BMW long term test [erickpl]
Apr 11, 2006 (10:55 am)
I guess I'm not being really clear about what I mean. I don't mean that it's bad to ask what people think of this or that car particularly if they own it. Say I wanted the new A6. I'd probably ask markcincinnati what he liked or disliked about his, and what options he'd suggest so I would know to look for things that I may not know otherwise. Sometimes it seems like people want the decision made for them though in a "tell me what I should do" way. I generally do a lot of research before I choose which cars to test drive, and I know what type of car suits my needs and what I can spend. So input from people here would simply be supplemental. Maybe that's how everyone looks at it. It just seems like some people rely on it more than others. To each their own though I guess!
#7186 of 10348 JROCK65 auto/suv sales by model and manu
Apr 11, 2006 (1:14 pm)
Please direct me to the inter-net website where I will find the number of autos/Suvs sold by manufacturers... monthly/quarterly/annually...may help me to make a buying decision...many vehicles look nice, but do not sell!!
#7187 of 10348 Re: JROCK65 auto/suv sales by model and manu [ty39]
Apr 11, 2006 (3:59 pm)
Honda Accords and Toyota Camrys are nice sedans, but hardly the best car on the road (for many people). It's just that they are very compentant in their price range. So, a love fest of the best selling may not tell you what is "best". That depends very much on what is important to you. A car could have a quirk, that you would just love, but not be popular to many people. Thus, the best car for you might not sell many. If you are looking for resale value, then it might be a factor.
#7188 of 10348 Re: JROCK65 auto/suv sales by model and manu [ty39]
Apr 11, 2006 (5:49 pm)
Your request is an odd one. How will this information help you to make a decision?