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comparison of cars by gregisgod13
Apr 07, 2006 (6:51 pm)
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what do u guys think of the mercedes-benz clk 350, E 350, audi q7, and bmw 525i and audi a6?????
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Re: comparison of cars [gregisgod13] by habitat1
Apr 08, 2006 (4:01 am)
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Replying to: gregisgod13 (Apr 07, 2006 6:51 pm)

Make it a BMW 530i 6-speed and you've got the best "driver's car" of the bunch by a large margin. The 525i automatic would still qualify, by a smaller margin. And if you can swing a 550i 6-speed via European Delivery (under $60k), you have the best you can do short of a M5.
 
I have never owned a BMW, but if you are going to go with a German car it would be my only choice other than Porsche (which I do own). The Audi is nice, but not very exciting to drive and Mercedes quality seems to be all over the map. My marketing director regrets having traded her old E300 Turbodiesel for the new E320 CDI. Engine is great, rest of the car not so.
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Re: comparison of cars [habitat1] by gregisgod13
Apr 08, 2006 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 08, 2006 4:01 am)

but for a 16 year old car wouldnt the q7 or e350 be good??? the q7 is safer right????
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Re: comparison of cars [gregisgod13] by vchiu
Apr 08, 2006 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: gregisgod13 (Apr 08, 2006 6:17 am)

>the q7 is safer right????
 
Patronizing answer : The difference in safety will more be in the driving than in the car
 
The answer you expect : Need to get NHSTA /EURO NCAP crash test results. I guess the Q7 won't perform badly in passive safety. Active safety, I would rather choose A6/E/5 with more nimble handling and better acceleration if one same engine is chosen.
 
Did you drive those models? how did you feel them?
A6 : You will get more exclusivity than E or 5. especially if you choose the wagon.
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Re: comparison of cars [gregisgod13] by pat HOST
Apr 08, 2006 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: gregisgod13 (Apr 08, 2006 6:17 am)

How old are you now? When are you going to buy this car?
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Re: comparison of cars [vchiu] by lexusguy
Apr 08, 2006 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: vchiu (Apr 08, 2006 6:57 am)

One could make the argument though that an inexperienced driver would benefit more from a higher driving position in the Q7, where you would possibly be able to spot trouble earlier than in a car with more nimble handling. Why not drive an FX35 or X5 instead of the 2.5 ton+ Q7 and get basically the best of both worlds? Do you really need a third row kiddie seat at age 16??
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Re: comparison of cars [pat] by markcincinnati
Apr 08, 2006 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: pat (Apr 08, 2006 6:57 am)

I wonder if the "13" in his id/name is his age?
 
I also thought he was settled on a new A6 Sline or perhaps BMW 525.
 
And, I'm not sure I even care how young or old a participant is -- so I say join in gregisgod13.
 
Listening to a business bloc of shows this morning: Gasoline in the US this summer $4.00/gallon!
 
Yikes.
 
Makes me wonder if the Germans and Japanese have considered displacement on demand for their LPS cars with V8's to mitigate some folks concerns and sell more cars?
 
Also, how is it, that for years Audi slapped turbo's on their cars 4, 6 and even 8 cylinder models and BMW poo-pooed this technology and now BMW is bringing out the 3.0L i6 306 HP derived by a turbocharger strapped on?
 
My last Audi had a 2.7T engine in it that I did NOT chip or modify (it really was plenty torquey without it, even in an allroad -- but with the 6speed), it would appear that the i6 Bimmer motor will, or should, end up in the 5's -- hmmm 6 cylinders, 306 HP and low down torque (just like Audi had been doing for years with some disdain from BMW and Bimmerfiles) -- wow, sign me up.
 
Or, why not put the excellent bi-turbo kit on the current Audi 3.2 engine? Well, for one thing, it would probably easily blow by 300HP and, more importantly, have weapons grade torque from about 1800 rpm and, therefore, would show the normally aspirated A6 4.2 its tail pipes without even breaking a sweat.
 
How come is it?
 
 
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Re: comparison of cars [markcincinnati] by lexusguy
Apr 08, 2006 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Apr 08, 2006 7:25 am)

As for the 335i, I think the reason is that they need the car to go faster, but the old M3 3.2L inline is too expensive, or for some other reason they dont want it to be in a non "M" car. BMW is feeling the heat from the IS350 and the C350, which are both faster and more powerful than even their updated 3.0L inline. I have little doubt that the next G is going to be a scorcher as well, and the easiest route to get the 3 back to the head of the pack is a turbo. Honda has always been against forced induction as well, but the RDX is going to have a turbocharged four-cylinder.
 
I have a feeling that Audi is going to need a "3.2T" motor pretty soon, or the rest of the class are going to leave the A4 and A6 in the dust.

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