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Replying to: rayng (Mar 28, 2006 3:03 pm) Buying a well engined 7 or S- class as new means an easy 150K USD in China. Guess why people rather prefer 30-40K USD people carrier and luxurily equipped? Buick even dare to offer the GL8 minivan with a 2,5L / 150 HP. You won't find any mention of the weight anywhere because they must be too ashamed of it. Must be a true 2200Kg/4500 Lbs! I let everyone guess how it performs with 7 guys onboard. Back to the LPS with China. BMW is subcontracting their 3 and 5 assembly with Zhonghua, so their 530 is a bit cheaper than if fully imported. I see quite a few in my area. Nothing with stronger Engine, because most Chinese buyer care about the badge, the look and the cabin trim. Driving is secondary. A 550 would cost nearly as much as a base 730 so the 730 will be much more looked for
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Replying to: vchiu (Mar 29, 2006 3:30 am)
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Replying to: bartalk3 (Mar 29, 2006 2:28 pm) I realy don't have this feeling here (I am in Shenzhen close to HK. Buick sell well because they offer the more bang for the buck. You can even buy a 4Cyl 2.0L Buick Regal for a cheap price (well I mean given the context). Of course, performance wise, we strayed to a galaxy far, far away from our LPS current subject. In China, there is very little market for LPS. LS (at low price) is the successful one! |
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GERMANY: BMW’s Panke considers gap in premium model range 31 March 2006| Source: just-auto.com editorial team BMW chairman Helmut Panke has told German car magazine ‘auto motor und sport’ that he sees room for new models positioned between the BMW 7-series and the Rolls-Royce Phantom, reported dpa-AFX news agency. Yawn, yawn, yawn. So will these new pricier models have the same V12 engines as the BMW760? Will these new pricier models be sold at a super hefty premium above the BMW760? Will these new models have more complex and problem-prone electronic features than the current 7 series? You bet they will! Jaguar, Audi, Lexus, MB and the rest of the herd are all doing the same thing as BMW. Hitting an already saturated market with new pricier models(what an ingenious and bold strategy, indeed). I think BMW should focus their Euros on non-herd like activities like increasing R &D on steam engines sooner than later. Such distinct innovations throughout their product-line(1 series and above) will sustain the prestige of BMW far better than just introducing another luxury model with features that are similar to other HELM models.
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Replying to: dewey (Mar 31, 2006 6:54 am)
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Replying to: footie (Oct 15, 2004 3:10 pm) I had no idea the Avalon was on the same platform as my RX! I always thought the GS was on a stretched (and sportier) version of the Avalon platform, due to their similar size.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 31, 2006 9:31 am) This is what deteriorates the AMG product line: too many products. They really should limit the AMG's to sedans and roadsters/coupes. Wagons, "Sports Tourers", and SUVs do not need 800,000,000hp like Mercedes-Benz has made many wealthy Americans believe. Anyone up for a 2008 $120,000 R65 AMG? Thought so. |
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Replying to: esf (Apr 01, 2006 9:47 pm) The Avalon and GS are similar size, but there are some pretty big differences between them, the biggest of which is that one is FE\FWD, and the other is FE\RWD. I dont know of any current architecture from any company that is adaptable to both. The suspensions are also different, the Avalon uses Mac struts in front and dual-link independent Mac struts in the back, while the Lexus uses independent double-wishbones in front, and has an independent, multi-link setup in the rear. The IS, GS, and LS dont share anything with any Toyotas on sale in the states.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 01, 2006 10:53 pm) This is akin to people thinking that all Audis are on Volkswagen platforms. The only models that are on VW platforms are the lower-end cars: A3, A4, TT. (TT is not necessarily low-end, it's just not large) All of these cars are on the VW Golf/Jetta platform, along with a few Skodas, and a SEAT. Cars that aren't on Volkswagen platforms are the European A2, upcoming A5, A6, A8, R8 supercar, Q7. Yes, the Q7 shares a platform with the Toureg and Cayenne. But it's a stretched version, thereby making it slightly different. Also, no, the 2008 Audi R8 is not a VW-derivitave- it is based off of Audi's Lamborghini Gallardo platform. |
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March 2006 Sales – Midsize Luxury Sedans: 5 = 5,265 E = 3,884 M = 2,629 GS = 2,483 STS = 2,217 A6 = 1,699 RL = 1,117
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