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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: Lexus ES350 approaches LS standards [lexusguy] by tagman
Mar 24, 2006 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 24, 2006 8:53 am)

Lexusguy,
Raising the bar is always good policy for the industry in general, and the ES has clearly done so.
 
Merc,
Sounds like we're on the same page about the diesels making their way into more sedans over the next years. When you think about it, diesels represent the majority of the European market, so I have gone on record that we are in for a significant revitalization of diesels in this country . . . and not just in SUV's, but in sedans as well. And, yes, Audi is a terrific surprise . . . but hopefully they realize the unique historical position they are in and don't waste the potential.
 
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Re: The Audi TDI is coming! [tagman] by dewey
Mar 24, 2006 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 23, 2006 8:19 pm)

Interesting!
 
A IS220d and BMW320d will definitely sell well in Europe where you can find a large number of BMW 316i and BMW 318i cars on their roads.
 
But I dont think neither a IS220d or BMW320d will be a hit here in North America. While a BMW535d, BMW330d or a IS300d are almost guaranteed to be hits in N. America.
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Re: The Audi TDI is coming! [merc1] by dewey
Mar 24, 2006 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Mar 23, 2006 10:47 pm)

I think a diesel Audi Q7 sounds more compelling than a hybrid Q7.
 
Based on my understanding the VW/Audi/Porsche hybrids will be like the Honda IMA hyrbids. That does not sound too promising since IMA hybrids are not as fuel efficient as HSD(Toyota and Ford) hybrids in heavier vehicles like SUVs. And that is not saying much since everyone knows how fuel efficient the Lexus 400H is in real world mileage.
 
Also I am willing to wager that a diesel Q7 will be funner to drive than a hybrid Q7.
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Re: The Audi TDI is coming! [dewey] by tagman
Mar 24, 2006 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Mar 24, 2006 12:29 pm)

I think a diesel Audi Q7 sounds more compelling than a hybrid Q7.
  
I sure agree with that. I'm still waiting to drive the diesel Mercedes GL.
 
The hybrid technology has definately proven itself in the lighweight division. And, as we can see so far, it's a little more challenging in the middle-weight division. And, of course, Lexus will be the one to prove, one way or another, whether or not it can succeed in the heavyweight division with the upcoming LS600h.
 
I am looking forward to the diesels that will be coming soon! It's just the beginning of something big! The U.S. market is going to be changed by them. I can feel it. Not like Europe, but definately a significant change.
 
BTW, if you are interested in hybrid chat, there are some cool hybrid forums. I'll be happy to exchange opinions on hybrids there any time if you want. Just let me know. Probably better there than the LPS forum, don't you think?
 
 
 
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Hybrid Vehicles board by pat HOST
Mar 24, 2006 (1:53 pm)
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Hybrid Vehicles
 
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Re: Hybrid Vehicles board [pat] by tagman
Mar 24, 2006 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Mar 24, 2006 1:53 pm)

"big brother" is always watching.
 
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Re: Hybrid Vehicles board [tagman] by pat HOST
Mar 24, 2006 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 24, 2006 1:57 pm)

and helping!!
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Re: Hybrid Vehicles board [pat] by tagman
Mar 24, 2006 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Mar 24, 2006 1:58 pm)

yes, I noticed.
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Leader in AWD by dewey
Mar 24, 2006 (7:03 pm)
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Here is a trick question:
 
Who is the No.1 All-Wheel-Drive seller in the Premium Segment?
 
Audi?
 
Nope.
 
The answer is BMW
 
Currently 25 percent of all BMWs have x drive.
 
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