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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#6985 of 10348 2002 Acura RL
Mar 22, 2006 (4:52 pm)
I am considering buying this car from an acquaintance of mine. He is selling because of recently getting a new job along with a company car. The car has 65,000 miles but is impeccable. Silver with black leather. Mostly highway miles. New tires and battery. No nav. It also has the Acura Care b to b extended warranty with 3 years and up to 100,000. miles. This can be transferred for $50.
Price is $18,000. My question is....Deal or no deal?
#6986 of 10348 Re: M35 Reliability Rating [rayng]
Mar 22, 2006 (10:24 pm)
I'd have to agree with CR on their A6 rating. I've driven an 02 A6 2.7T for 50,000 miles, and gone through 7 sets of rotors. That's right, I've had the dealer change the brakes more often than the oil. It's not like I take the car out on the track, just routine commuting...
#6987 of 10348 Re: 2002 Acura RL [houdini1]
Mar 22, 2006 (10:39 pm)
houdini1, for what it's worth, I took a little time to check out some of the pricing on that vehicle. I noticed an unusual range of prices, from about $15K all the way to mid-twenties. I could not find enough differences in equipment to explain it, and even the mileage did not fully account for the large price spread. From what I could gather, it definately seems as though the car and price your acquaintance is offering you is very fair, and somewhat better than average, as compared to the many other vehicles that are listed, especially with the new tires and warranty, but it doesn't appear to be one of those incredible "once in a blue moon" deals that you'd be crazy to pass up. But, I'd certainly get some more feedback from some of the others on this forum, just to keep it balanced. Whatever you do . . . I want to wish you good luck!!
#6988 of 10348 Re: 2002 Acura RL [houdini1]
Mar 22, 2006 (11:20 pm)
If you want a first gen RL, 2002 is a good year. That was the year it received a power boost to 225hp, which it needed after a big weight gain for the '99 refresh (and it was never a lightweight to begin with). The RL is a pretty low-tech car, with an old engine and an old 4-speed automatic. The advantage to that is its reliability record is pretty much spotless, and it was not involved in the transmission recall that affected the 5-speeds in the TL and CL. The NAV setup in the first gen RL was pretty crude, you're not really missing out there.
Before you buy, I would highly suggest test driving a '02 Lexus ES300. An example with around 50K miles can be had for the same money, and its frankly just better in every way than the RL, which was designed all the way back in '96.
#6989 of 10348 2002 Acura RL
Mar 23, 2006 (4:01 am)
Tagman and Lexusguy, thanks for the feedback. I agree that it is not an incredible offer and I too have noticed that the price on these first gen RLs is all over the board. This is not my dream car (new LS 460)but I have always sort of liked them. I had a new 93 legend that was fairly bullet proof and served me well.
I won't drive this car but about 8 or 9,000 miles per year and it will be my golf car. My 3 golf buddies(25 years +)and I take turns driving to our club which is about 20 miles away so I need some room and a big trunk. I recently sold a business so I am semi-retired and we play 2 to 4 times a week. Semi meaning no SS money for a couple of more years.
I am partial to the upright seating and windshield on the RL as opposed to the ES. I was a big ES fan thru 2001 but not so much on the later models. They seem a little too much isolated and with kind of a "rubbery" feel to the transmission and suspension. That said, I know they are fine automobiles and I hope to have a LS 460 in a couple of years.
I also know the history of the RL and the owner. He is rather anal (takes the tooth brush to the truck hinges, etc.)and keeps it spotless and in tip top shape.
#6990 of 10348 The Audi TDI is coming!
Mar 23, 2006 (4:30 am)
Audi plans to introduce turbodiesels in the USA(and hopefully Canada too) by 2008.
I thought I would feel euphoria over the news until I read that their TDIs will be sold solely in the Q7. So I guess I better give up waiting for a TDI A4 or A6 Avant
#6991 of 10348 Re: The Audi TDI is coming! [dewey]
Mar 23, 2006 (8:49 am)
I'm willing to go on record to predict that the diesel comes in at least one of the Audi sedans shortly thereafter (or concurrently). It's smart to be hush-hush about it so as not to hurt current sales.
Further, I suspect that most, if not all, the HELMS will have diesel offerings in the U.S. market within a couple or few more model years.
It will take a while, but one day you can either tell me I was right about my prediction, or I was full of it. Hopefully, you'll be driving it!
#6992 of 10348 Re: 2002 Acura RL [houdini1]
Mar 23, 2006 (11:33 am)
The RL never really did it for me. I also liked the Legend a lot, and Acura gave up just about everything that made the Legend a great car, (including the name) to make this boring LS clone. Couple of things to keep in mind, despite its 197 inches in length, the RL really doesnt have that much room. Interior space is about the same as the ES, and the trunk space is smaller than the ES. Mpg is worse than the LS400, and there are of course no side curtain airbags or anything like that.
Have you tried one of the newer ES300\330s with the AVS (adaptive variable suspesion) option? While it certainly doesn't turn the car into an IS300, its far superior in "sport" mode compared to the stock setup.
#6993 of 10348 Re: 2002 Acura RL [houdini1]
Mar 23, 2006 (2:47 pm)
That RL must be like new! Sounds like it gets a full detail instead of a car wash! Is $18K the bottom line on it?
Maybe you've found your "golf car" after all.
#6994 of 10348 Re: The Audi TDI is coming! [tagman]
Mar 23, 2006 (7:39 pm)
Well I hope you are right Tagman,
I recently read that BMW intends to introduce X5 turbodiesels. Just like Audi, there was no mention whatsoever of sedans.
Also MB announced their intentions for new Blutec diesel GL and ML SUVs.
Apparently the focus of their diesel endeavors are on the SUV market and not the sedan market.
I guess we will have to wait and see. Hopefully the future turbodiesel LPS segment will not be defined by only one car, the MB E Class.