Luxury Performance Sedans

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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan

#6566 of 10338 Re: February 2006 Sales – Midsize Luxury Sedans: [edspider1] by merc1

Mar 02, 2006 (10:23 pm)

Replying to: edspider1 (Mar 02, 2006 10:23 am)
Well what you listed is pretty much it. The E500 will become the 382hp E550, but the E350 should stay the same. I don't think the new direct-injection 3.5L V6 will make it in time for our 2007 model year cars. Lastly, yes the E320CDI will get the new V6 making 4Matic an option for the first time on a E-Class diesel. There should be some interior tweaks and some updates to the chassis if the recently facelift SL is anything to go by. Mercedes has a lot riding on this car so I think the FL will go a little deeper mechanically than the usual lights/bumpers/wheels stuff, IMO of course.
 
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#6567 of 10338 Re: February 2006 Sales – Midsize Luxury Sedans: [edspider1] by merc1

Mar 02, 2006 (11:24 pm)

Replying to: edspider1 (Mar 02, 2006 10:23 am)
I found something about the 07' E-Class. This little article says that they've also worked on the driving qualities also. They don't usually change the chassis much during a FL, but considering what they've done with the SL I figured the E would get a more through facelift.
 
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#6568 of 10338 Re: Brand new BMW biturbo inline 6 [tagman] by vchiu

Mar 02, 2006 (11:27 pm)

Replying to: tagman (Feb 21, 2006 5:45 pm)
Right on spot!
 
With Direct injection, we may even get better EPA figures than the non turbo engine, like the VW 2.0TFSI compared to the 2.0FSI
 
300 HP and 400 NM are exactly the figures I was dreaming for my ideal 3 serie . I would choose the estate version and an auto gearbox for the ultimate smoothness.
 
I can't wait to see it

#6569 of 10338 Re: Brand new BMW biturbo inline 6 [hpowders] by vchiu

Mar 02, 2006 (11:38 pm)

Replying to: hpowders (Feb 22, 2006 4:22 am)
>I had great regret leaving my beloved inline 6 for the more powerful but less refined BMW V-8.
 
Whoa? L-6 more refined than V8 with BMW? Do some people have similar experience?
I have a 740i and I wouldn't qualify the powertrain as unrefined or disappointing in this respect.
 
I shortly tested a 328 and a 728 and I found both to be noisier and a bit coarse in comparison. No experience with the latest L-6 or V8 though. Power output disregarded
 
any other views?

#6570 of 10338 Re: Brand new BMW biturbo inline 6 [vchiu] by warthog

Mar 03, 2006 (4:06 am)

Replying to: vchiu (Mar 02, 2006 11:38 pm)
There was a recent spate of posts on the topic of an inline 6's superior balance. See, for example, post #6291.

#6571 of 10338 What I Have Found With My 545.... by hpowders

Mar 03, 2006 (5:38 am)

is occasionally the V-8 when idling and then just giving it a little gas wants to sprint ahead-can be dangerous pulling into a garage a few feet from the wall when you want to pull in a wee bit closer.
 
Never had this problem with the I6. Smooth and refined.

#6572 of 10338 Re: February 2006 Sales – Midsize Luxury Sedans: [merc1] by markcincinnati

Mar 03, 2006 (6:28 am)

Replying to: merc1 (Mar 02, 2006 10:23 pm)
Diesel plus 4Matic -- almost a Homer Simpson "pork chop" moment for me.
 
Now can we get Audi and BMW on/in the hunt!?!

#6573 of 10338 Re: February 2006 Sales – Midsize Luxury Sedans: [markcincinnati] by lexusguy

Mar 03, 2006 (6:58 am)

Replying to: markcincinnati (Mar 03, 2006 6:28 am)
And of course Lexus completely blew their chance to compete with a Diesel 4Matic Benz with their boneheaded move to make the GS450h RWD.

#6574 of 10338 Re: February 2006 Sales – Midsize Luxury Sedans: [lexusguy] by dewey

Mar 03, 2006 (8:25 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 03, 2006 6:58 am)
There seems to be a spread of AWD euphoria in this forum?
 
So a AWD Lexus GS450H is going to be significantly more successful than the upcoming RWD GS450H? I dont think so.
 
AWD is not the key attribute that will define any car's success(with the exception of Audi and Subaru). You want proof? Look at the Acura RL. Nor do I think the prospects of a hybrid AWD RL will improve, especially when compared to a Lexus RWD GS450H.

#6575 of 10338 Re: M35 Consumer Reports top Luxury Sedan [gohorns1] by dewey

Mar 03, 2006 (8:37 am)

Replying to: gohorns1 (Mar 02, 2006 9:19 pm)
Good rebuke and you may be right.
 
So now I am going to quit my psychologybabble and focus more on metal and tires.
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