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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#523 of 10348 Re: GS300 [kyfdx]
Jan 26, 2005 (8:12 am)
I would bet on it, because this is directly from the Lexus USA website:
"The next phenomenon from Lexus is coming. The entirely new GS 300 comes packed with the force of 245-hp in a 3.0-liter V6 engine. And a ferocious 300-hp, 4.3-liter V8 lives under the hood of the GS 430.
The style is groundbreaking — sleek sculpted lines, slingshot windows and a longer wheelbase take the GS into uncharted design territory. An innovative push button starts the ignition. And to complement the powerful engines, the GS sports a six-speed sequential-shift automatic transmission.
The phenomenon begins March 2005."
#524 of 10348 I stand corrected...
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jan 26, 2005 (8:19 am)
Didn't the last GS300 have a straight-six? Although the power bump is good, it is disheartening to see Toyota ditch the inline engine...
#525 of 10348 Re: Yes...[kyfdx]
Jan 26, 2005 (8:51 am)
Yes, the 1st and 2nd Gen GS300 did have an inline-6 engine. "Economies of scale", means it doesn't make financial sense to have the inline-6 engine around any longer, when they have a global V6 that produces more power, is more compact, has lower emissions, and is more fuel efficient. Nissan did not continue with the RB26 I6 on the new Skyline for the same reason. The 2JZ and RB26 were great I6's for modding potential, but they don't make USDM financial sense anymore. Besides, Nissan and Toyota both have impressive V6's with the VQ and GR series. The I6 is still a great configuration though. It can't be touched for smoothness and natural internal balance.
#528 of 10348 Re: Lexusguy [merc1]
Jan 26, 2005 (5:43 pm)
The Bimmer was the current 225hp 530i sport. But I do not believe it's 3rd place finish was due to a lack of power. The main gripes were the active steering(overly intrusive)i-drive(too many sub-menus) and what else, price.
Jan 26, 2005 (5:51 pm)
I wonder why an E-class Mercedes was not included in the Motortrend comparo.
#530 of 10348 Re: jrock65 [r2917]
Jan 26, 2005 (7:31 pm)
Acura Canada RL Sales Fall Off a Cliff....
Guess what - now that the Infiniti M pricing is out (at up to $15K CAD LESS than the RL), the 2 people who actually bought RL's in Canada this year at the USD$48K sticker price plus the Acura Canada "Let's See If We Get a Sucker" extra premium of $11+K over current F/X (CAD$71,500) have had their drivers licenses revoked for being 'Sub-Normal' (IQ under 90).
I've tested the RL, and I've sat in the M (in dealers in Canada by late Feb, for test drives). The M35AWD - also a 6 - has the best engine in its class, more/better 'gadgets' and feels far less claustrophobic. I can't imagine any more Subnormals willing to pay the "Canadian extortion premium" over the US pricing once the M is available for order - now.
Of course, if you have to spend 72K CAD, you can consider the Lexus GS (CAD$66K) - something tells me lexus still has better fit and finish (and residual values) than boring Acura. (Ghosn has pulled the Infiniti brand way ahead of Honda/Acura on styling alone). If they sell more than 10 RLs in Canada at their dumb price grab, I'd be surprised.
Jan 26, 2005 (9:19 pm)
Yeah that really makes no sense. An Acura the most expensive Japanese sedan? WHAT?
#532 of 10348 Re: [jrock65]
Jan 26, 2005 (9:25 pm)
Thanks, and wouldn't you know it I got my issue today. The whole camparo lacked the depth of their usual comparos. No sidebars or anything just rankings.
I must say I'm impressed by the M35/45 combo, now all I have to do is see one on the street to truly gauge the styling.