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Replying to: jo2 (Nov 15, 2005 11:41 am) The M35 is a nice car, but the dash has more buttons than a computer slot machine. In my opinion, it was very distracting. Also check the maintenance schedule for the M35. Some of the Japanese LPS required service every 4000 miles. Just my thoughts. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 15, 2005 8:04 pm) Agree with you 100%....other improvements for the M have been suggested in other forums as well. Considering that they started from scratch, the Infiniti engineers did a hell of a job out of the gate. Will be interesting to see how this segment evolves. The point is that EVERY LPS could use improvements. I'll refrain from making suggestion for other LPS cars. Their owners should share their recomendations....after they praise their car as being the best ever of course. LOL again....twice in a day...man I need to get a life.
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Replying to: jjacura (Nov 15, 2005 7:31 pm) The over/under was 60 minutes...I took the over and lost! (sarcasm intended). |
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 15, 2005 7:27 pm)
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According to CR 2006 Buyer's Guide, the following models have below-average reliability (I limited the list to the '04 models, since 05 are not listed): BMW 3 Series BMW 5 Series BMW 7 Series BMW X5 MB C-Class V6 MB CLK MB E-Class MB M-Class Doesn't that covers the vast majority (90+%) of '04 BMW & MB on the street? Note that of all the Audi, only the S4 V6 has better-than-average. Some Audi & MB models are not rated (insufficient data) ot not listed. By browsing the other models, BMW & MB perfectly blend with Buick, Chevrolet, Ford and VW in terms of reliability ('04 models): predominantly below average. Conclusion: boy am I happy with my M45 instead of these other prestigious clunky cars...
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 15, 2005 8:30 pm) The G is supposed to get a total redesign for '07, and if its anything like the M, the 3 series should watch its back. I'm sure unlike the IS350, the Infiniti will have 1. a 6-speed manual, and 2. an off switch for the stability control. I'm also pretty sure they are going to push the VQ even farther in order to take the power crown back from Lexus. I think the rumor is something like 3.7L.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 15, 2005 10:12 pm) My final choices came down to the BMW 545 AND M45. I felt the performance, handling, overall drivability were pretty evenly matched. For enthusiasts, the BMW is unquestionably the benchmark for this class but I think the M is every bit the equal in that arena. I know it's not easy to overcome prejudice over your pet brand but if you were objective, the two cars are pretty close, IMO. I think other factors, such as tire pressure, tire sizes, sport/non-sport packages will have far more effect in differentiating the feel of the cars than the cars themselves. I think Infiniti really hit the mark with the M. After you give both cars a fair shake and you still feel the BMW is the better driver, good for you. The choice should be simple, all things being equal. As others have said, the i-drive is not that big of a deal. Most of the bad press is from the magazine testers and they really don't count much as they only spend a few hours or at most few days with the car. My impression of i-drive is that once you've lived with it for a little bit, it's no big deal. But if you feel the cars are pretty close in terms of performance, than other things like exterior styling and interior appointments become the deciding issues. For me, it was not even close. The Infiniti's interior was head and shoulders above the BMW. It just felt fresh and right to me. Despite some negative press about the BMW's styling, I like the Chris Bangle styling. Although the BMW's 5 may be a bit over-styled, I like the overall effect and prefer it to the Infiniti's. I find the M45 long and narrow and doesn't have the BMW's presence. However, the M's rear room is pretty generous and for me that was a factor as well. For me the interior of the car is much more important than the exterior. Frankly, it's hard to be moved by almost any three box design that most sedans are subjected to. Good luck with your decision and let us know what you decide. |
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 15, 2005 8:40 pm) |
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Despite my feelings that the 545 is the better driver, I was also influenced by the mediocre gas mileage of the M45. I would rather get 20mpg than 16. That comes to about $1500 more out of my pocket over a 3 year lease if I got the M45. |
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Replying to: mexibec (Nov 15, 2005 9:53 pm) In the December 2005 issue, CR upgraded the 5 series 6 cylinder sedans to average or better. So cross that one off your "clunker" list. We can now put the 5 series back on the "Prestigious and Wonderful" list. |
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