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10007 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 7:40 AM
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. . .or at least it seems that way, since there was substantial dialog about/from the Infinit M buyers. Moreover, the fact that the Mercedes E sells well is hardly represented here. Anyone with M's care to give a full report on 5,000, 10,000 or more miles? Ditto some of the other LPS's? Inquiring minds. . . . BTW/FWIW: My A6 turned 9,000 miles recently and other than the pushbutton starter button issues (the fourth one seems to be holding its own) and the fact that the DSP surround sound settings revert to "normal" from time to time, the car in every other way has been flawless and "most excellent."  |
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Nov 14, 2005 7:37 am) I had one of the first cars off the ship, and there have been two bugs. One is a rattle that was coming from the headliner. This was fixed on the second try (but they now need to re-seat one of the two backseat cushions as they did not re-install it completely--the back cusion juts out about 1-2 cm). The other problem is with the driver's seat. At about 6k miles, I began to notice it slip forward about 1/4-1/2 inch with heavy braking. They have a new bracket on order for this (at which time they are planning on fixing the rear-seat as well). Some M owners complain about noise. I know this is louder than the GS and RL, but noise (other than the now-fixed rattle) has not been a complaint of mine. I find I appreciate the styling more and more. The bourbon interior with the black exterior always gets positive comments (the people at the dealership always say they love the combo, but rarely see it).
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The death knell was heard month ago and here is confirmation: VW is no longer in the LPS market! The Phaeton will no longer be sold in USA. I believe the same applies to Canada? DETROIT -- Volkswagen AG will pull its pricey Phaeton sedan from the U.S. market in February following the car's mediocre reception from American buyers and the company's attempt to focus more intently on offering affordable products.
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 14, 2005 10:44 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 14, 2005 10:44 am) How many did they sell in North America?
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 14, 2005 10:44 am) Of course without a dealer network at the proper level, well. . . And, no need to put the Phaeton in Audi dealers, they already have one. . . I still think the concept was sound, the execution sucked, tho. . . 
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Some good news for the few manual purists out there! BMW Z4 M The BMW Z4 M will not have SMG but will be sold only with a 6 speed manual! IMO that is the way it should be! |
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Replying to: docnukem (Nov 14, 2005 11:24 am) |
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Nov 14, 2005 1:44 pm) How so? You mentioned that VW doesnt have the type of dealer service expected at this price level, they dont even have the prestige level of an Acura, let alone M-B or BMW, the car competed with Audi... how is this still a good idea?
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I'll just add this tidbit from sniffpetrol I lifted from a friend: "VOLKSWAGEN'S W12 SHAME There were red-faces in Wolfsburg last night following an embarrassing revelation about the origins of Volkswagen's innovative W12 engine. Although engineering experts initially believe that the W-pattern cylinder layout was a clever way of making a large capacity engine more compact it has now emerged that the unique format is simply the result of German people and their inability to say the letters 'v' and 'w'. 'I'm afraid this is true,' admitted one anonymous engineer. 'In Germany the letter 'w' is pronounced as a 'v' and this is where the confusion arose. We were ordered to create a new V12 engine for our flagship models but unfortunately someone wrote the 'v' down as a 'w', thus creating a needlessly complex engineering development programme.'"
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