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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#4894 of 10348 Re: There's always some way to rig the results. . . [markcincinnati]
Nov 11, 2005 (8:49 pm)
I have to believe that the Cadi/BMW comparison was a fair comparison of a “sport” equipped Cadi vs. a standard 530i. I have driven all of the cars covered in this forum (multiple times) in an (as yet unsuccessful) attempt to find one that I wanted to buy. I always use a base comparison car when I do this so that I have a common frame of reference. Although I am not supposed to mention it on this forum, my reference standard is a $28,000 manual transmission 2005 Subaru GT Limited (fitted with 225 summer performance tires rather than the crap AS Bridgestones which come with the car).
I will admit that I am biased towards BMWs. From my first Alpina 1600 in 1967 through 1990 I always owned BMWs. That said, I really did not like the base, non-sport 530i. It floated. It wallowed in turns. The steering was scary at high speeds. The Subie whipped it. I am certain the sport-equipped Cadi did too. The fairer comparison would have been a 530i Sport.
Out of all the cars on this forum, the one I like best is the M35/M35x. I would probably rationalize the fact that they are thirsty. But, they are just flat too noisy – clearly noisier than my reference car which costs 2/3 as much. I wish they had more sound proofing and a taller 6th speed top gear.
But if you are driving the cars covered on this forum, you should also try a 330i. The Sport model, in particular is a real, classic BMW, without all of the electronic game nonsense (iDrive, Active Steering etc.) of the more expensive cars. It is quick, comfortable and really sweet to drive. My only problem: it is a size smaller than I was looking for, and I have not been able to get past the value proposition: a properly equipped 330i Sport or 330xi costs $41 to $42K. That is awfully close to a comparably-equipped base M35.
#4896 of 10348 Re: There's always some way to rig the results. . . [mexibec]
Nov 11, 2005 (9:16 pm)
I have not pondered such a choice since both the BMW Z4 and Honda S2000 do not suit my family lifestyle! That is why I have to settle for the compromise of a sport sedan/wagon !
But hypothetically if I was single or an empty nester I would pick the Honda S2000. Why? Because I love the idea of listening to its motorcycle pitch while reving between 6k to 9k rpm! I've heard the S2000 loves to rev. Also the S2000 is cheaper than the Z4!
#4897 of 10348 Re: New Ford 3.5L V6 [jrock65]
Nov 11, 2005 (10:56 pm)
Yes. It may show up in the Zephyr as early as next year. The current LS is supposed to die off pretty soon. I'm pretty sure its replacement is going to be based on the AWD version of the Ford 500, itself borrowed from the Volvo S80.
Apparently DEW98 will continue, but only in the next Jag S-type, which will not get a shortened version of the aluminum XJ platform as previously planned.
#4898 of 10348 Re: There's always some way to rig the results. . . [lexusguy]
Nov 12, 2005 (3:33 am)
Got all of you beat. I learned on my family's 1956 Chrysler Imperial. Now THAT was a back seat!
#4899 of 10348 Re: There's always some way to rig the results. . . [warthog]
Nov 12, 2005 (8:21 am)
Maybe I can find a way to post a picture of me with my first learner a '52 Chevy! It was a but I loved that car!
#4901 of 10348 CADILLAC ELDORADA MAN
Nov 12, 2005 (11:13 am)
Wow, and I thought I was an old timer!
#4902 of 10348 Re: CADILLAC ELDORADA MAN [dewey]
Nov 13, 2005 (7:40 am)
My first recollection of a car was a 1951 Hudson Hornet, the first car I actually drove (illegally) was my dad's 1953 Hudson Hornet with "twin H power" and a turbo hydra matic transmission.
When I became old enough to legally drive the thing, my dad helped me get the old relic running and other than the fact that it had both standard brakes and steering (the amount of pressure required to stop the car required literally "standing on the pedal,") it was clearly a car that had to have been as the saying goes, ahead of its time.
This big car with this HUGE i6 and twin carbs was clearly the LPS of the early and mid 1950's.
I don't miss it at all -- but I do have fond memories.
God, I'm old.
#4903 of 10348 Regarding BMW tuning
Nov 13, 2005 (8:04 am)
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